Friday, December 30, 2022

Proposal: Find More Than Just Doors

Enacted popular, 8-1. Josh

Adminned at 01 Jan 2023 11:10:09 UTC

In the rule “Explorer Actions”, after “this includes information that is only publicly available for Lit rooms. “, add the following sentence:

If there is no Room in that direction, the Narrator shall instead privately disclose their current Room’s Malfeasance or lack thereof to them.

 

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

30-12-2022 18:38:23 UTC

Mm, I like this, but isn’t it going to accelerate the rate at which new rooms are made rather significantly?

JonathanDark: he/him

30-12-2022 18:52:12 UTC

How so? The rules say that the Narrator “may” expose a Secret Passage. Granted, I was proliferating new rooms frequently early on, but I had always planned to slow things down over time, if for no other reason than to keep the map manageable.

Josh: Observer he/they

30-12-2022 19:06:07 UTC

True, but you’re going to get a lot more requests, when moving off the edge of the map becomes the default move in most circumstances.

Josh: Observer he/they

30-12-2022 19:06:40 UTC

I’m not arguing against it, mind; just thinking about how it will work in practice.

Bucky:

30-12-2022 19:08:31 UTC

If you want to argue that, you might as well propose a per-turn limit on the “Expose a Secret Passage” action.

SingularByte: he/him

30-12-2022 19:12:00 UTC

Honestly to me, it feels kinda strange to glue these two actions together without any way to search normally since it almost feels like finding malfeasances is made to be a consolation prize.

If you could also choose to search without peeking, that would feel more logical.

SingularByte: he/him

30-12-2022 19:12:56 UTC

Also, you might want to put whether or not the disclosure is public or private since it’s not specified.

Josh: Observer he/they

30-12-2022 19:24:57 UTC

@Bucky I know you like to see the world through a conflictual lens but I’m not arguing anything.

I’m just modelling out how people would behave of critical information were hidden behind an action with no other opportunity cost.

I’m not completely against a limit on secret passages but that’s not the scope of this proposal, which is, just to reiterate, one that I am broadly in favour of.

Josh: Observer he/they

30-12-2022 22:30:13 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

30-12-2022 22:34:45 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

31-12-2022 02:07:04 UTC

for

SingularByte: he/him

31-12-2022 07:05:52 UTC

against  As stated above, it feels weird to gate the finding of malfeasances behind an unrelated action, at least without some other way of accomplishing the same result. For one thing, it means that a room like the hallway can *never* be checked for malfeasances due to having a room in every direction.

Kevan: he/him

31-12-2022 12:13:52 UTC

for A dedicated search action would be better, though.

quirck: he/him

31-12-2022 14:39:25 UTC

against  imperial

JonathanDark: he/him

31-12-2022 21:18:04 UTC

for

@quirck: what’s the combo of “against” and “deferential” in the same comment mean? Is that a valid vote?

quirck: he/him

31-12-2022 21:28:47 UTC

Now it sure is, after your vote DEF is a valid FOR.

Bucky:

31-12-2022 22:24:31 UTC

The comment’s vote is whichever voting icon is last.

Raven1207: he/they

31-12-2022 22:24:35 UTC

for

Habanero:

01-01-2023 02:27:44 UTC

for