Saturday, January 25, 2020

Proposal: Fizzle No More

Reached quorum 6 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 25 Jan 2020 19:01:34 UTC

Replace the text of “Locating Artefacts” with:

If no Individual has changed Location in the past 16 hours and if an Artefact’s Location is Unknown, any Individual may (as a daily communal action) attempt to recover a lost Artefact by selecting a Public Place with at least one Individual and an Artefact with an Unknown Location (each at random) and applying the following:

* If any Collectors are in the selected Place, one of them is selected at random to become the Artefact’s Location;
* Otherwise if any Individuals are in the selected Place, one of them is selected at random to become the Artefact’s Location

This was brought up as a more acceptable alternative.

Comments

Darknight: he/him

25-01-2020 04:34:40 UTC

for

card:

25-01-2020 04:42:58 UTC

imperial

Josh: Observer he/they

25-01-2020 08:38:06 UTC

against Still arbitrarily favours collectors over everybody else. Also, still boring.

Kevan: he/him

25-01-2020 09:25:49 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

25-01-2020 11:17:10 UTC

[Josh] This was originally written as a counterweight to the Researchers having a safe haven, at a time when nobody wanted to be a Collector. As it stands, Collectors are still outnumbered, so the die roll won’t be entirely in their favour.

Josh: Observer he/they

25-01-2020 11:41:03 UTC

This all assumes that the researchers are working together, which they currently aren’t (to the best of my knowledge). If the researchers coordinated to disperse through public places then yes, it would be a more even mechanic, but as it stands collectors can easily cover locations where researchers (or outsiders) are standing to significantly tilt the odds on their favour. Restricting the roll to occupied public places only exacerbates that tendency.

My second objection is the more significant for me, though, which is that this isn’t an interesting mechanic as it stands, and I’d rather see approaches to reform it entirely than marginal tinkering

Madrid:

25-01-2020 11:43:48 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

25-01-2020 11:44:07 UTC

And again, it’s important to restate that a collector is currently winning by a wide margin. Pro-collector proposals are inherently anti-competitive.

Kevan: he/him

25-01-2020 12:20:01 UTC

It’s not that easy for Collectors to block non-Collectors, when the die roll waits for 16 hours of non-response before happening. I’m not sure which faction is helped more by increasing the rate of Artefact drops, really.

Josh: Observer he/they

25-01-2020 12:28:35 UTC

It’s much easier for Collectors to secure an ideal result than it is for anybody else. And it feels like the players are pretty certain who benefits - both of the Collectors are FOR on this, while the Researchers with EVCs are AGAINST and DEF, respectively.

Lulu: she/her

25-01-2020 18:49:07 UTC

for