Friday, May 24, 2024

Proposal: Four Score And Seven Points Ago

Timed out. Passes 5-0—Clucky

Adminned at 26 May 2024 15:25:23 UTC

Add a new rule named “Points” with the following text:

Each Storyteller has number named Points privately tracked by the Publisher, defaulting to 0 until 13 June 2024 00:00 UTC, after which the default for a Storyteller’s Points is the arithmetic mean of all other Storytellers’ Points rounded down to the nearest integer. At any time, a Storyteller may privately request their current Points value from the Publisher.

If there is a rule named “Judging”, in that rule remove the text “Total Score and the Fragment Scoring atomic action are intentionally undefined.”, then in that rule add a subrule named “Scoring” with the following text:

As a Virtual Action, a Storyteller may privately communicate a Scoring Response to the Publisher for an Open Judging. A Scoring Response must contain a clear description of Score, which is a number between 1 and 10 inclusive, allocated to Fragments according to the numbered list in that Judging post (e.g. “Give 4 Score to #5 and 6 Score to #1”), and where the sum of all of the allocations of Score in that Scoring Response is exactly 10. Additionally, the author of a Scoring Response cannot allocate more Score to a Fragment that they authored than any other Fragment (equal allocations are allowed).

Fragment Scoring is an atomic action with the following steps:
* For each Fragment in the Judging, sum up the Score for that Fragment from the Scoring Responses received for that Judging while it was Open, using only each Storyteller’s most recent valid Scoring Response. This is the Total Score for that Fragment.
* Add the Total Score for each Fragment in that Judging to the Points of the Storyteller who authored that Fragment.
* Privately communicate to each Storyteller their current Points value.

Scoring idea, which is to allocate Score among the Fragments you like the most, essentially ranked-choice voting rather than just “most votes”, with a mechanism to prevent people from just boosting their own Fragments.


JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

24-05-2024 14:42:55 UTC

Full disclosure: I stole the idea from 4st for privately tracking Points rather than publicly tracking them. I liked the idea a lot as a way to make this more collaborative. That said, I’m not married to it.

Clucky: he/him

24-05-2024 15:54:29 UTC

Shouldn’t the fragment with the highest score get added to the story?

I’d kinda rather votes be done in secret. From a maximalist strategy standpoint, if I like #3 the best but I see its already gotten a lot of points I might be more incline to give points elsewhere.

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

24-05-2024 16:08:29 UTC

The Fragment with the higjest Total Score does get added to The Story, but that part is in the other Proposal, “Stand In Judgement”

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

24-05-2024 16:16:00 UTC

I really like the idea of keeping the voting private as well. I just now revised the Proposal to have Score Responses sent privately as a Virtual Action.

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

24-05-2024 16:17:49 UTC

Any thoughts on the comments to a Judging, if the Score Responses are private? It seems like Storytellers could still publicly advocate for specific Fragments in the comments, even if their scoring is private.

I’d rather not regulate such commentary, but if you see issues with that, please bring it up.

Clucky: he/him

24-05-2024 21:20:58 UTC

If we make votes secret, we can make it so you just don’t vote for yourself. But I guess we can do that later.  for

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

24-05-2024 21:53:33 UTC

Sure, if folks want to change it to forbid giving Score to your own Fragment, I’m fine with that.

Nad: he/him

25-05-2024 01:35:36 UTC

I agree. I also like the idea that you should score others not yourself. for

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

25-05-2024 01:44:20 UTC

Yeah, looks like Clucky already wrote it up in “Insert Obama awarding Obama Meme Here”


26-05-2024 01:26:52 UTC

for ah that’s what I had saw, glad we’re on the same page that you shallnt judge urself

Kevan: he/him

26-05-2024 10:09:05 UTC

The virtual action clause is overlapping the definition of virtual actions a bit, here, no need to repeat that it’s privately communicated and has to be clear.