Thursday, September 22, 2016

Proposal: Garrymandering Deadlock Prevention

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 24 Sep 2016 17:07:18 UTC

Append the following to the rule “Gerrymander”:

* If a Councillor attempts to Gerrymander a block to a Constituency represented by that Councillor, they attempt is successful only if this block have not been Gerrymandered this week

If a majority of EVCs to this proposal contain a word ‘MOAR’, replace ‘8’ with ‘7’ and ‘12’ with ‘13’ in the rule “Gerrymander”.

Comments

ShareDVI:

09-22-2016 16:19:55 UTC

for
MOAR

Josh:

09-22-2016 17:01:11 UTC

against Due to not knowing how the EVC rider will turn out; I don’t want the numbers changed and can’t commit to thread-sitting.

Brendan:

09-22-2016 17:27:13 UTC

imperial

RaichuKFM:

09-22-2016 20:57:38 UTC

imperial I do want the numbers changed, so, MOAR and whatnot.

I prefer EVC riders to mandate a regular quorum, really, just so that people don’t have to vote AGAINST it out of worry for the EVC clause; yes, it means that even with a majority of the EVCs naming the clause and the proposal passing, it might not trigger, but someone could always just repropose it separately in cases like that.

RaichuKFM:

09-22-2016 20:58:59 UTC

(I mean I guess a vote FOR without the EVC trigger could lead to the trigger… triggering, in a case like that, if there was a vote AGAINST naming the trigger, but I digress.)

qwertyu63:

09-22-2016 21:06:07 UTC

for Intentional exclusion of the EVC trigger word.

Kevan:

09-22-2016 21:10:38 UTC

against Because the Gerrymandering limit change doesn’t seem necessary, and this proposal is asking me if four players should decide whether that change occurs.

ShareDVI:

09-22-2016 21:31:26 UTC

OK, my bad - didn’t thought about it.
Limit change aside, what do you think of the main addition (preventing the players from capturing the same block over and over)

Kevan:

09-22-2016 21:36:29 UTC

If flips the current timing issue (taking the action as late as possible in a week) into the opposite, and I’m not sure how much difference that makes. It’s also a bit awkward to have to remember who’s changed which square.

qwertyu63:

09-23-2016 01:47:50 UTC

against CoV

Larrytheturtle:

09-23-2016 01:59:33 UTC

against

ShareDVI:

09-23-2016 08:33:19 UTC

against SK