Thursday, November 26, 2020

Proposal: Get the floor buffer out

Fails due to being self-killed. - Bucky

Adminned at 27 Nov 2020 20:45:45 UTC

Set all backing tiles to grey stone.

We could let Kevan spend the next week chipping away at angles, sure, or we could just call this one and move onto the next, for good or ill.

Comments

Raven1207: he/they

26-11-2020 15:49:50 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

26-11-2020 17:10:21 UTC

Josh, you spent the Ink Wash discussion railing against the extraordinary injustice of direct gamestate proposals daring to bypass dynastic gameplay and counter specific players’ strategies, and called for such a proposal be vetoed (which it was). And your next move is to propose one of your own?

You dismiss a proposal of “all players lose progress in Black Tiles and play continues” as an outrageous, incomprehensible blasphemy from a mirror universe, but are relaxed about what may as well be “stop looking for angles, the game ends now and I win”? (I assume the context here is that you can see that your Desideratum - or that of an accomplice - is guaranteed to outscore every other on the current Mosaic, and you know that you could always self-kill this proposal if that changed.)

This doesn’t get my vote.

against

Josh: Observer he/they

26-11-2020 17:28:03 UTC

Shocked, shocked I say

Clucky: he/him

26-11-2020 18:01:50 UTC

against

If people want to end the game it should be pretty easy for them to do so without resorting to a proposal. There are 57 white tiles left. That has rapidly been going down.

Bucky:

26-11-2020 18:32:09 UTC

against  per Clucky.

Josh: Observer he/they

26-11-2020 18:49:11 UTC

S/k against

It was a cheeky punt

Kevan: he/him

27-11-2020 10:19:55 UTC

I guess you’re still in character at this point, but this seems like quite a dark and gaslit playbook. I don’t know if it’s an unusual take on being the Traitor, but I’d be disheartened if this became a norm.

Josh: Observer he/they

27-11-2020 10:22:39 UTC

Oh, we’re invoking gaslighting now!

Kevan: he/him

27-11-2020 11:11:03 UTC

Well, yes. In Ink Wash comments you were announcing to onlookers what I was literally thinking, speaking for the group in defining big social norms that I was breaking, and concluding by saying that my voice as a player here had become entirely unmoored from reality.

And then the lights go up and you do the same thing you were just denouncing, chuckling that obviously it’s no big deal to try these things.

Josh: Observer he/they

27-11-2020 11:31:29 UTC

And that is similar to the process by which abusive husbands convince their partners that they deserve their abuse?

Josh: Observer he/they

27-11-2020 11:34:17 UTC

Hypocritical, sure. Like I said: it’s a cheeky punt, I don’t apologise for it but I’m also not going to go for the mat for it. But let’s try to keep the rhetoric within sensible bounds, please.

Kevan: he/him

27-11-2020 11:41:17 UTC

I was meaning the general interpersonal and political sense of the term that’s been in the news a bit recently (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting#In_politics).

Coderblaze:

27-11-2020 15:18:26 UTC

against

Bucky:

27-11-2020 16:35:22 UTC

> I don’t know if it’s an unusual take on being the Traitor, but I’d be disheartened if this became a norm.

If it does become a norm, I’d be FOR repealing the Traitor rule.