Friday, April 12, 2024

Proposal: Get the Laminator [Appendix] [Building Blocks]

Reached quorum, 4-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 13 Apr 2024 16:01:59 UTC

In the Appendix, replace “All wiki pages that the Dynastic Rules explicitly mention (except for dynastic histories and discussion pages)” with:-

All wiki pages that the rules and Building Blocks explicitly mention (except for the FAQ, the dynastic histories and discussion pages)

In “Building Blocks”, replace “That page is gamestate and may not be altered except as specified by the ruleset or through the passage of a Proposal or CfJ; however, its contents are not rulestext.” with:-

That page’s contents are not rulestext.

To “Spelling and Formatting”, add:-

* A Seeker may change the layout or design of a gamestate wiki page if doing so would not change how any rules interpreted its content.

Per comments on Cooperative Emperor Style, all referenced wiki pages should probably default to being gamestate, rather than just the dynastically-referenced ones. If we think some of these pages should be freely editable, we can say that in the rule that mentions them.

If this enacts it will make the “Community Guidelines”, “Gamestate Modifications” and (if Cooperative Emperor Style passes) “Imperial Styles” pages gamestate. “Mentorships” is already considered gamestate by other means, because its alteration is regulated.

Comments

Kevan: City he/him

12-04-2024 08:56:50 UTC

Now that I’ve written that I’m wondering if we actually had a point in limiting it to Dynastic Rules by default, and may withdraw this, but let’s at least have that conversation.

Right now the Photo Gallery wiki page isn’t gamestate (it’s only linked from rule 1.1 and not in the dynastic rules), but all of the information tracked on it is (because the alteration of that information is regulated).

Was the dynastic rules scope just to cover situations where we dynastically reference some corpus of text and don’t want people to edit it - and for core-referenced pages like Imperial Styles and Mentorships we should declare case-by-case whether we want them to be freely editable?

Josh: he/they

12-04-2024 09:43:12 UTC

I think we’ve just all collectively misremembered how it works.

As far as I can tell, the clause was always dynastic-rules-references-only, going back to 2013 at least. (It was, perhaps predicatably, a response to a Wakukee scam where they wrote “this page is gamestate” on a non-gamestate wiki page and used that to declare victory.)

Very startling to realise that we’ve all just been using it wrong all this time.

Anyway, I’m FOR this.

Kevan: City he/him

12-04-2024 09:59:13 UTC

I’m mildly concerned that making the gamestate tracking page itself gamestate might mean that a purely visual afterthought like adding separator bars would be illegal, and would have to go through a proposal.

(Although I know for a long stretch we were declaring gamestate pages in dynastic rules, prior to the establishment of “gamestate tracking page” as a core keyword.)

Josh: he/they

12-04-2024 10:05:29 UTC

It could be worth a clarifying entry in Spelling and Formatting, to establish that wiki formatting can be freely edited and amended so long as meaning isn’t change or lost.

Kevan: City he/him

12-04-2024 10:15:10 UTC

Good idea, added.

JonathanDark: he/him

12-04-2024 14:42:37 UTC

for

Josh: he/they

12-04-2024 17:53:23 UTC

for

NadNavillus: he/him

12-04-2024 22:34:23 UTC

for

NadNavillus: he/him

12-04-2024 22:35:09 UTC

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NadNavillus: he/him

12-04-2024 22:36:10 UTC

Sorry, thought I was deferring to another proposal
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