Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Proposal: Griefing the Executor/Murderer

Self-killed. -Ornithopter

Adminned at 21 Jan 2010 11:28:43 UTC

In the Rule “Lights”, add the sentence

When processing such a Dark List, the Executor may choose for the Dark List to have no effect if he feels that the actions described therein are excessively unnecessary, annoying, or otherwise detrimental to this Nomic; this includes, but is not necessarily limited to: an extremely long list, or moving into and immediately out of a room without doing anything useful in the interim for the sole purpose of making noises.

to the end of the paragraph reading

If the Lights are Off and the Executor has any unprocessed Dark Lists in his email inbox which were sent since the Lights last went Off, and whose sender is not Dormant, he may process the oldest of these Lists.

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Wanna know a great way to prevent the Murderer from attacking you?  When the lights go out, quickly email Kevan with a list of Dark Movement Actions a mile long.  When your Dark List comes up in the queue, he’s not required to perform those actions, but he’s not allowed to skip over them, either.  If performed, he’ll be required to make a gazillion DICE4 rolls.

Comments

Kevan: he/him

19-01-2010 20:31:10 UTC

for Although there are better mechanisms for enforcing this; perhaps a limit of only two move actions per List.

Klisz:

19-01-2010 20:39:09 UTC

for

Oze:

19-01-2010 20:44:36 UTC

for

redtara: they/them

19-01-2010 20:53:05 UTC

against

Purplebeard:

19-01-2010 21:03:06 UTC

for

Roujo: he/him

19-01-2010 21:15:55 UTC

for

TrumanCapote:

19-01-2010 21:27:59 UTC

for

spikebrennan:

19-01-2010 21:28:05 UTC

for

Keba:

19-01-2010 21:39:56 UTC

against

because of the alternative “Limit Dark List Actions to 5”

Darknight: he/him

19-01-2010 23:45:13 UTC

imperial

alethiophile:

19-01-2010 23:48:35 UTC

for Though do try to keep use of this clause to a minimum. Moving solely to make noises, for instance, could have some useful effect.

tecslicer:

20-01-2010 02:44:55 UTC

against I trust Kevan, but I now don’t like arbitrary.

Dustin:

20-01-2010 03:23:42 UTC

against

digibomber:

20-01-2010 06:29:04 UTC

against Prefer limit to only 2 dark actions for example.

Excalabur:

20-01-2010 10:38:09 UTC

imperial

ais523:

20-01-2010 13:18:01 UTC

against I’d prefer a hard limit within which we can be as creative as we like.

Kneuronak:

20-01-2010 17:23:47 UTC

against

Uvthenfuv:

20-01-2010 17:59:14 UTC

against I prefer the other solution

Keba:

20-01-2010 21:25:51 UTC

Well, Ive found another problem with this rule:

Assume there is a sensless move. If a guest uses lots of these sensless moves, the become sensefull (because of the “one mile long list” problem above). That means indirectly, every move on a Dark List makes sense.

Additionally “sense” is really subjective generally. A not working strategy may seem sensless to good players, but would you forbid bad strategies?

Kevan: he/him

20-01-2010 21:37:01 UTC

The proposal is explicitly deferring to the Executor’s subjective opinion, though, it doesn’t matter if anyone would disagree with that opinion.

cloj63:

20-01-2010 22:02:39 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

21-01-2010 11:17:11 UTC

against CoV to speed this up. Players only get one set of Dark Actions, they shouldn’t have to second-guess what I consider “annoying”.

Qwazukee:

21-01-2010 18:07:15 UTC

against

Ornithopter:

21-01-2010 18:15:21 UTC

against

Hix:

21-01-2010 18:41:33 UTC

against s/k

Not the best solution.  Limit of 5 basically solves it, and that Proposal looks to pass.