Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Proposal: Grue_slaying

S-Killed. Failed by Chronos.

Adminned at 16 Dec 2005 03:16:21 UTC

I’m new to writing laws, so this is very vague and will need major adjustments I expect. As we’ve got a monster, I suppose we’re likely to have people hurting eachother, SO:

Add a new rule called “Grue Tag” that reads as follows:

If a protagonist “slays” the grue, eir role becomes COLOUR grue, and the protagonist who formerly was the grue’s role becomes “Unemployed.”

Add a new sub-section named “Unemployed” to the rule “Characters” to be elaborated upon in future:

Any “Unemployed” protagonist’s location is always “The Ruins of the Fortress of Cheese”. If a protagonist remains “Unemployed” for more than three days, eir role becomes “Fire Marshall”.

Slay is a term that has yet to be defined, differentiation between different coloured grues has yet to be defined.

Comments

Cayvie:

14-12-2005 21:43:14 UTC

against

just doesn’t grab me :/

Elias IX:

14-12-2005 21:55:32 UTC

against Not partial to there being a Fire Marshall, sorry.

Seventy-Fifth Trombone:

14-12-2005 22:10:29 UTC

1) COLOUR?  I don’t get it.
2) “Formerly was the grue’s Role” leaves a lot of potential loopholes, as it may have been a Grue from thirteen days ago.

I’ll withhold voting for now, because neither of those are show-stoppers.  But I’d like to see what other folks have to say first.

Quazie:

14-12-2005 22:15:13 UTC

against

AgentHH:

14-12-2005 22:36:03 UTC

against

What happens to all the protagonists that have no roles? Are they “Unemployed”? If they are, I could see many many Fire Marshals coming to be, and I don’t think that concept has a place yet. I also find colored grues to be a silly concept. It’s not like you can see them anyways :P

notafraud:

14-12-2005 22:51:54 UTC

If we remove the colour thing and the fire marshall thing? I’m not very good at wording the rules… as you can tell.

notafraud:

14-12-2005 22:52:48 UTC

Any suggestions on re-wording? How do I reword a law proposal?

Hix:

15-12-2005 00:23:30 UTC

You can’t edit this proposal once it has votes, but it will continue to count toward your limit of 2 pending proposals until it is officialy failed (or enacted!).

notafraud:

15-12-2005 02:01:47 UTC

against

Seventy-Fifth Trombone:

15-12-2005 02:23:56 UTC

I withdraw the COLOUR query—I didn’t know about that GNDT command.

Saurik:

15-12-2005 02:35:28 UTC

Ok, so after staring at it for a few minutes, I’m thinking that the COLOUR thing is like “purple grue” (where COLOUR is chosen randomly, we were having a discussion on another one of the Posts, I think it was Deep Pockets, about what the possible random variables are, although I haven’t read the page that someone links to with all the possibilities yet), which only (to me) is a problem in that this Rule doesn’t also define the Role “purple grue”, so the Role field couldn’t be set to it.

Although, after thinking about it for a little while longer, Antagonist doesn’t actually state that the only Roles that exist are those that were defined as subsections of Characters, so maybe that isn’t a problem after all.

I think that this Proposal is really wanting a followup proposal that allows color modifiers on Roles so that that mechanic does something.

I do love the idea that the poor Unemployed person may be forced to become the Fire Marshal.

To answer AgentHH: This rule actually, as currently stated, only permits at most one more Fire Marshal (for a total of two) to accidentally occur. (Which, if Disco Inferno were to (well, at this point, really had) passed, would have been a violation.) It doesn’t define anyone else to be Unemployed but the previous Grue. There’s no reason to assume that Protagonists without Roles are Unemployed.

However, that _is_ a problem, and neither Antagonist nor Disco Inferno dealt with what would happen if that were to occur, and that seems like a really fast way to cause a “these two rules contradict on the outcome of this event” (which is much worse, to me, than “this rule told me to do something that I can only metaphorically do in game state”, as at that point you can at least just roleplay, especially given 75th’s explicit statement that he wanted to leave the Command/Response system open in Erratatime), so on that grounds I feel I must vote against.

Salamander:

15-12-2005 03:22:00 UTC

for made me laugh

Saurik:

15-12-2005 03:39:12 UTC

Salamander: But the rule kind of leads to quick contradictions, no? ;P

Seventy-Fifth Trombone:

15-12-2005 06:51:25 UTC

I want the Command/Response system to be open, except where Rules impose structure and game effects.

Moonwryn:

15-12-2005 09:37:12 UTC

against

Excalabur:

16-12-2005 03:37:50 UTC

against

AgentHH:

16-12-2005 06:11:50 UTC

Shouldn’t this be Failed, since it was self-killed?

Saurik:

16-12-2005 09:28:16 UTC

AgentHH: the admin’ing is just behind ;P. By my figuring, all proposals up through Grue Tag (draft II) are now ready to be admin’d.

ChronosPhaenon:

16-12-2005 11:13:30 UTC

against