Friday, October 25, 2019

Proposal: Harmony with Nature

Timed out 2 votes to 3. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 28 Oct 2019 09:12:07 UTC

Add a rule called “Natural Equilibrium”:

If at any time the MGTA becomes zero, all EMs have achieved Victory.

Since we have a group loss condition, I thought it would be fitting to have a group win condition.

Comments

TyGuy6:

10-26-2019 04:34:04 UTC

This appears to be impossible to achieve, unfortunately.

Sadly, this is not a cooperative. The end result, as far as victory, would be that whomever knocked it down to 0 would also be first in line to actually declare victory. And thus, nobody would want to work to get close enough, only for someone else to snipe it, am I right?

But as a thematic piece to a global puzzle, I like it. Kind of like hoping people could all just “get along” and “work together”.
for

Cuddlebeam:

10-26-2019 05:06:05 UTC

for

Farsight:

10-26-2019 11:13:52 UTC

[TyGuy6] I hadn’t thought about it in that way, but yeh you’re right, it isn’t as cooperative as it looks. But actually, I think that’s even more thematic, because we all agree that we need to protect the environment, we just want someone else to do the hard work hehe!
Perhaps if this passes we could alter it to actually be achievable…

Kevan: HE/HIM

10-26-2019 11:32:45 UTC

[TyGuy6] Sniping isn’t an issue, as DoVs don’t enact in queue order, they just enact when they’re at quorum. If five players achieve victory, they can all make their own DoVs, and whichever one enacts first fails all the others.

In the best and most honest and organised case (where every player instantly makes and votes FOR all DoVs) it would be down to the enacting admin to choose which one to enact first. In reality, we’d probably just see some tactically delayed voting, and punishment for whoever was asleep when the MGTA hit zero and didn’t get their DoV as quickly as others.

against

TyGuy6:

10-26-2019 17:00:44 UTC

against yeah, huh, that’d be a dumb ending if it actually happened.

TyGuy6:

10-26-2019 17:00:59 UTC

(CoV)

pokes:

10-26-2019 20:54:00 UTC

against

TyGuy6:

10-27-2019 02:47:50 UTC

Also, it is possible it could happen, considering repeatable uses of exponential multipliers like Oil Rigs.

Kevan: HE/HIM

10-28-2019 09:11:46 UTC

It could happen immediately using “Giant Ice Cube In The Sky”, the previous proposal in the queue, and some Revolutions.