Thursday, May 02, 2024

Story Post: Haul: The Merchant

Haul distributed, Clucky, NadNavillus, 4st, Desertfrog and JonathanDark are agreed.

Adminned at 03 May 2024 18:47:35 UTC

In a small chest lifted from an open cart at an opportune moment, the thieves find 22 Florins, a Gold Ring and an Unappraised Gem.

All Thieves adopted a Standard Plan for the job, except for Josh who chose Cash and Clucky who chose Stuff.

Comments

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

02-05-2024 09:17:46 UTC

I propose that 2 Florins go to Xebec, 5 to NadNavillus, 2 to ledlunistus, 4 to Josh, 5 to JonathanDark, and 4 to 4st (bringing everybody to 10 unpouched florins except Josh), the Unappraised Gem goes to Xebec, and the Gold Ring goes to Juniper.ohyegods.

NadNavillus: he/him

02-05-2024 11:02:10 UTC

I’m thinking that both Josh and Clucked funded this heist and will want a bigger cut.  I will defer to them to see how they want to cut this but will offer this proposal at equity:

Unappraised Gem goest to Clucky.  Gold Ring goes to Josh. 4st, Deserfrong, JonathanDark, Juniper, Xebec and Nadavaillus all get 3 Florins. And Lendunistus gets the extra 4 Florins.

NadNavillus: he/him

02-05-2024 11:03:07 UTC

Sorry not “Clucked” but Clucky…..

I’m thinking that both Josh and Clucky funded this heist and will want a bigger cut.  I will defer to them to see how they want to cut this but will offer this proposal at equity:

Unappraised Gem goest to Clucky.  Gold Ring goes to Josh. 4st, Deserfrong, JonathanDark, Juniper, Xebec and Nadavaillus all get 3 Florins. And Lendunistus gets the extra 4 Florins.

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 13:43:58 UTC

I agree with NadNavillus.

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 14:02:54 UTC

I like that you corrected ‘Clucked’ but left ‘Deserfrong’ in

NadNavillus: he/him

02-05-2024 14:57:53 UTC

:0

Spelling is hard.

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 15:22:40 UTC

I agree with NadNavillus

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 15:53:47 UTC

Why should just get the ring (which is worth seven) after only contributing two but I get the gem (which is only worth 5.5) after contributing 3?

4st:

02-05-2024 15:55:25 UTC

I agree with NadNavillus

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 16:06:53 UTC

I propose that the Unappraised Gem goes to Josh.  Gold Ring goes to Clucky. 4st, Deserfrong, JonathanDark, Juniper, Xebec and Nadavaillus all get 3 Florins. And Lendunistus gets the extra 4 Florins.

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 16:07:49 UTC

actually scratch that

I propose that the Unappraised Gem and one Florin goes to Josh.  Gold Ring goes to Clucky. 4st, Deserfrong, JonathanDark, Juniper, Xebec, Lendunistus and Nadavaillus all get 3 Florins.

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 16:19:52 UTC

Deserfrong
Nadavaillus

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 16:21:45 UTC

I agree with Clucky

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 16:30:13 UTC

I trust that everyone has noticed the open co-operation between Desertfrog and Clucky?

If you don’t want to get left behind, 4st, JonathanDark and Nadnavillus, I’d suggest that you all cabal up.

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 17:38:05 UTC

...open co-operation?

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 17:45:08 UTC

You just switched from one proposition to another despite there being no difference in benefit profile to you at all; in fact the only difference is that Clucky gets more and I get less. An odd switch, considering that Clucky is currently well ahead of me; how would you explain that other than as the result of open cooperation?

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 17:49:49 UTC

I just thought Clucky’s argument made sense; and I have no idea who is actually leading because I’m too lazy to go back to calculate Pouch values

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 17:52:40 UTC

Okay now that I checked them it looks like you’re right, so

I agree with NadNavillus (again)

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 17:57:33 UTC

lol why are you letting Josh bully you into simply giving himself a better deal with no change to the deal you’re getting?

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 17:58:16 UTC

my proposal gives Josh a expected result of 6.5 for spending 2, and me an expected result of 7 for spending 3

way fairer than giving Josh an expected result of 7 for spending 2 and me an expected result of 5.5 for spending 3

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 18:01:52 UTC

also its Josh’s own fault he has less florins than others. We shouldn’t be rewarding poor play

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 18:02:12 UTC

@Josh: who I Cabal with is my business, but if you have a better offer in mind, by all means please do offer it. I can be bribed.

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 18:02:58 UTC

@JonathanDark how much a bribe do u want to change your vote

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 18:05:18 UTC

@JonathanDark I’m only offering self interest. Clucky is playing hard, he’s already successfully knocked me out the running. I’d advise letting him get too far ahead

Josh: he/they

02-05-2024 18:05:28 UTC

*against

Desertfrog:

02-05-2024 18:10:20 UTC

Actually, I’ll just propose to give everything to me (a deliberately stupid proposition) and let others figure out this Josh-Clucky dilemma

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 18:13:07 UTC

Bold move I like it

I agree with Desertfrog

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 21:42:32 UTC

Let’s start over.

I propose the following: Gold Ring goes to Clucky. Unappraised Gem and 2 Florins goes to Xebec. 4st, Desertfrog, JonathanDark, and Nadavaillus each get 3 Florins. Juniper.ohyegods and lendunistus each get 4 Florins.

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 21:57:15 UTC

#FeedTheFrog

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

02-05-2024 22:22:43 UTC

Nope, I agree with desertfrog

JonathanDark: he/him

02-05-2024 22:52:10 UTC

Clucky: he/him

02-05-2024 23:50:30 UTC

come on Jonathan

feed the frog

NadNavillus: he/him

03-05-2024 01:03:33 UTC

Nah, that will kill that game. I propose this haul is busted.

Clucky takes a modest loss on his investment: 2 Florins

lendunistus: gets the Golden ring.
juniper gets the Unappraised Gem.

Everyone else gets 4 Florins:  4st, Desertfrog, JonathanDark, Nadnavillus, Xebec

 

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 05:06:47 UTC

“lets punish clucky for no reason what so over”

wat

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

03-05-2024 05:37:55 UTC

Nope, feed the frog

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

03-05-2024 05:38:35 UTC

All florins go to Desertfrog, lendunistus gets gold ring, juniper gets unappraised gem

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 05:45:46 UTC

@juniper sure that works too but I’m still team feed the frog for now because its still the funniest result. But willing to switch tomorrow morning if needed

NadNavillus: he/him

03-05-2024 11:56:05 UTC

I proposed the haul was busted. 

I “punished” you for getting behind and promoting this lopsided cut, very simple reason. And I’m not sure how offering you more florins from the proposal you’re backing can be seen as punishment. 

You’re actually getting more in my proposal and so is everyone else but DesertFrog.

Desertfrog:

03-05-2024 12:23:06 UTC

I don’t want to get everything, so:

I agree with NadNavillus

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 13:05:17 UTC

Well, if Desertfrog isn’t in on the joke, then neither am I.

I agree with NadNavillus.

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 14:04:25 UTC

awwwww

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 14:07:53 UTC

My new proposal:

Clucky gets 2 Florins
lendunistus: gets the Golden ring and 1 Florin
juniper gets the Unappraised Gem and 1 Florin
Desertfrog gets 5 Florins
JonathanDark gets 5 Florins
4st gets 5 Florins
Xebec gets 5 Florins
NadNavillus gets nothing

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 14:08:38 UTC

wait that math doesn’t math

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 14:08:57 UTC

guess I gotta go with:

Clucky gets 2 Florins
lendunistus: gets the Golden ring
juniper gets the Unappraised Gem
Desertfrog gets 5 Florins
JonathanDark gets 5 Florins
4st gets 5 Florins
Xebec gets 5 Florins

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 14:16:08 UTC

Clucky successfully buys my vote.

I agree with Clucky.

PS: I’m not looking for fairness in every proposition. At some point, someone needs to achieve victory, so bribes are always welcome to me.

NadNavillus: he/him

03-05-2024 14:33:26 UTC

Well then lets go all in:

Clucky gets 0 Florins
Nadnavillus gets 0 Florins
lendunistus: gets the Golden ring
juniper gets the Unappraised Gem
Desertfrog gets 6 Florins
JonathanDark gets 6 Florins
4st gets 5 Florins
Xebec gets 5 Florins

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 14:57:07 UTC

I agree with NadNavillus

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 15:04:41 UTC

Clucky gets 1 Florin
Nadnavillus gets 0 Florins
lendunistus: gets the Golden ring and a Florin
juniper gets the Unappraised Gem and a Florin
Desertfrog gets 7 Florins
JonathanDark gets 0 Florins
4st gets 6 Florins
Xebec gets 6 Florins

4st:

03-05-2024 16:32:10 UTC

I agree with Desertfrog.

FEED THE FROG.
(c’mon lighten up it’s just a game!)

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 17:13:41 UTC

I propose the following:

give Juniper gets the gem
Clucky gets the ring
Xebec gets 2 florins
Frog, Nad, 4st, JonathanDark and Lendun all get 4 florins each

(see my comment in the discord. I believe this makes is to, assuming gems are wroth 5.5, on average for all hauls so far, accounting also for what we’ve put in

Juniper will be at 1.5 over the baseline average
4st and nad will be 1 over
Xebec will be 0.5 over
everyone else will be even

NadNavillus: he/him

03-05-2024 17:22:00 UTC

I agree with Clucky.

4st:

03-05-2024 17:32:51 UTC

I agree with Clucky

Desertfrog:

03-05-2024 18:07:19 UTC

I agree with Clucky

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 18:26:57 UTC

I agree with Clucky