Friday, May 03, 2024

Proposal: Hidden Riches

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 04 May 2024 14:58:43 UTC

To “Possessions”, add

The sum of each Thief’s Possessions’ Values is publicly tracked. Possessions that do not have a constant Value are not included in this sum, but are instead tracked by inserting the string “+?” to the end of the sum.

Add a subrule entitled “Stashes” to the rule “The Thieves” , with the following text:

Each Thief has a Stash. Each Stash has a Value, which is a non-negative integer privately tracked by the City and defaults to 0.

At any time, a Thief may spend Florins to increase the Value of their Stash by the number of Florins thus spent. At any time, a Thief may decrease the Value of their Stash to gain an equal amount of Florins. These actions may be concatenated into a single wiki edit with some other action.

As the total Value of a Thieves Pouches can be deduced, there’s no point in keeping such valuable information private. Instead, there could be an actually secret mechanism to ensure some uncertainty.

Comments

Juniper.ohyegods: she/her

03-05-2024 10:23:11 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

03-05-2024 10:58:35 UTC

This is saying that Stashes are “privately tracked by the City” - doesn’t that have the same issue of valuable information being private?

[Juniper] Remember that proposals have a four-hour edit window which gets closed early if anyone votes. I know it’s easy to overlook when checking in, though, maybe I should make the font size bigger on the warning.

Kevan: he/him

03-05-2024 11:20:32 UTC

(Larger font size and warning icon added.)

Desertfrog: Jury

03-05-2024 12:28:21 UTC

Stashes being private isn’t a problem because their Values can’t be deduced (as long as you’re careful enough to not reveal how much you’re hiding).

Currently only attitudes and the gem can be utilized to disguise putting florins to the stash, but more ways could be added later

Desertfrog: Jury

03-05-2024 12:29:00 UTC

Wait, no, attitudes don’t work because the City processes them

Kevan: he/him

03-05-2024 14:00:53 UTC

Can’t the value be deduced from the act of “spend Florins to increase the Value of their Stash”, in the same way as Pouch creation?

4st:

03-05-2024 20:09:09 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

03-05-2024 20:12:41 UTC

I don’t think this works as advertised.

against

Clucky: he/him

03-05-2024 22:48:45 UTC

against

Desertfrog: Jury

04-05-2024 09:51:19 UTC

Withdrawn against I didn’t realise dice rolls were public, so the Stash thing indeed doesn’t work