arthexis

Note that the enacting admin will be able to cast any number of successive votes for himself before closing the proposal; the final tally doesn’t count “valid votes”, just “votes”.

But it says “in this fashion”

If you vote for yourself fifty times, you’ll have included a vote “in that fashion” fifty times, even if 49 of them aren’t valid votes by the end of play.

(So, in fact, even saying “valid votes” wouldn’t have made any difference. We should really work out a solid phrasing for this kind of thing, and keep it on a shelf in the wiki somewhere.)

Well, I agree with you that we should specify this in the rules. Perhaps a polling rule on the glossary that defines how a poll works?

I came here specifically to point out the same bug as Kevan has. @Kevan: most proposals in the past have used the phrasing “counted votes”; i.e. if you vote FOR then FOR again, the first isn’t counted because you revoted.

The Princess

  Darth Cliche.

  Darth Cliche.

Cov. wrong icon

This is currently 2-2-1, for quick reference.

CoV Qwazukee, as The Princess isn’t technically a Tourist.

@Kevan, ais

As per the Ruleset’s definition of Vote, “If a Tourist uses more than one Voting Icon in comments on a Pending Proposal, his Vote is the last voting icon he uses.”

So in the scam attempt described only the last comment would be a vote.  Their other comments would not be votes.

But each vote was a legal vote at the time it was made; if you interpret “name included in this fashion on the most votes” as meaning “votes cast historically” rather than “votes that are still legal at the end of voting”, it’s scammable.

It’s a bit of a leap, but this is a proposal from the admin who pulled a crazy-language-interpretation DoV scam after enacting a rule illegally, last week.

  arthexis

  arthexis

  arthexis

Responding to Kevan: how about defining the term “Valid Final Vote” as meaning, with respect to a given proposal, the comment (and only the comment) on that proposal that contains the vote by that commenter that is given effect when the proposal is adminned.

I consider comments with icons that come before the final voting icon to be invalid when the Proposal is enacted/failed, and thus irrelevant in this case. I think this would hold up under CfJ as the most sensible way (avoiding massive spam, if nothing else).

  Darth Cliche

Darth Cliche

Darth Cliche

Darth Cliche

Darth Cliche

arthexis. but damn DC, going abit over board with votes lol

Darth Cliche.

The phrase “The Tourist who has their name included in this fashion on the most votes” pretty clearly only refers to voting icons that are votes when the proposal passes.

Now 3-2.

arthexis

Hmm, ppl seem to approve of arthexis’ brash, unconservative style of breaking Blognomic and then declaring victory. Intriguing.

Current situation:

Passing 4-3.

arthexis: 3
Darth Cliche: 2
No one: 2

If Kevan unidled, he would have 1 vote.

Darth Cliche, but only because arthexis made that dumb DoV earlier.

Darth Cliche, because I included 2 names in the last one.

COV to Darth Cliche.

Qwazukee

Current situation:

Failing 4-4.

arthexis: 2
Darth Cliche: 3
Qwazukee: 1
No one: 2

If Kevan unidled, he would have 1 vote.

Qwazukee, because he’s at least been relatively sane throughout all this. I still think a metadynasty is a fairer way to end a dynasty when there isn’t widespread agreement about who should run the next one, though.

CoV Qwazukee

CoV Qwazukee