Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Proposal: I’d deal with this crisis, if it weren’t for the red tape

Reached quorum 20 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 28 Jan 2010 09:16:48 UTC

Part 1:
If there is a rule entitled “Crises”, then add the following to the end of the first paragraph of that rule:

For purposes of the clause in the “Proposals” core rule, the phrase “(unless the Guest already has 2 Proposals pending)” shall be deemed to exclude any Proposal that is a Crisis.  No Guest may have more than 2 Crisis Proposals pending at any time.

Part 2: If more than half of the EVCs to this proposal include the phrase “one is enough”, then replace the phrase “more than 2 Crisis Proposals” in Part 1 with the phrase “more than 1 Crisis Proposal”.

posted by spikebrennan at 26 Jan 2010 17:51:47 UTC Comments (25)

Comments

tecslicer:

26-01-2010 18:17:51 UTC

for  one is enough

Uvthenfuv:

26-01-2010 18:54:17 UTC

for I don’t see why a second crisis proposal per person could hurt…
except if we spam, of course

Klisz:

26-01-2010 19:11:12 UTC

for

Ornithopter:

26-01-2010 19:11:27 UTC

for one in enough
I was going to propose this actually. Thanks for saving me a proposal slot.

Keba:

26-01-2010 19:23:55 UTC

for one is enough.

TrumanCapote:

26-01-2010 19:59:06 UTC

for

Anonyman:

26-01-2010 20:26:02 UTC

for
One is enough.

redtara: they/them

26-01-2010 20:40:41 UTC

for One is enough

cloj63:

26-01-2010 20:55:48 UTC

for
one is enough

Nausved:

26-01-2010 21:18:05 UTC

for  One is enough.

alethiophile:

26-01-2010 22:06:20 UTC

for

Roujo: he/him

26-01-2010 22:51:44 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

27-01-2010 00:14:49 UTC

for

Ornithopter:

27-01-2010 01:33:21 UTC

for CoV (for typo)
one is enough

Excalabur:

27-01-2010 03:32:49 UTC

imperial one is enough

Thrawn:

27-01-2010 04:14:55 UTC

for 
One is enough

digibomber:

27-01-2010 05:52:10 UTC

for one is enough

Kevan: he/him

27-01-2010 08:37:27 UTC

for One is enough.

Purplebeard:

27-01-2010 14:56:49 UTC

for One is enough

spikebrennan:

27-01-2010 15:12:07 UTC

for Explicit author “for” with “one is enough” since that seems to be the preference.

Hix:

27-01-2010 15:55:02 UTC

Be aware that although Crisis Proposals won’t count toward that clause in the Core Rules and prevent you from making non-Crisis Proposals, you still won’t be allowed to make a Crisis Proposal if you have two non-Crisis Proposals Pending.

spikebrennan:

27-01-2010 16:08:36 UTC

Hix- you’re sure about that?

My reading of the core rules is that the only express limitation on the number of pending proposals that a given Guest can have at a time is Rule 1.3, which reads as follows:

1.3 Proposals

Any Guest may submit a Proposal to change the Ruleset or Gamestate, by posting an entry in the “Proposal” category that describes those changes (unless the Guest already has 2 Proposals pending, or has already made 3 Proposals that day).
Proposals can either be Pending, Enacted, or Failed. When a Proposal is first put forward, it is considered Pending. A Proposal may not also be a Call for Judgment.

So if we override the “already has 2 Proposals pending” clause such that Crisis Proposals are not counted, then you can have two non-Crisis Proposals pending and still not be barred from making a Crisis proposal (since the _only_ limitation on making Crisis proposals would be the limitation (of either one or two Crisis proposals, depending on whether the EVC thing passes) that is set by the rule under this proposal.  If you disagree, why?

Oze:

27-01-2010 16:14:07 UTC

for “one is enough”

Hix:

27-01-2010 19:43:16 UTC

The short answer is that Rule 1.3 doesn’t restrict how many Pending Proposals you’re allowed to have at once; it just restricts when you’re allowed to make another proposal based on how many Pending Proposals you currently have.

To expand on that:  This proposal would just make it so that Crisis Proposals don’t count toward the “2 Proposals” in the following sentence “Any Guest may submit a Proposal to change the Ruleset or Gamestate, by posting an entry in the Proposal category that describes those changes (unless the Guest already has 2 Proposals pending, or has already made 3 Proposals that day).”

So, for example, if you had 1 Crisis and 1 non-Crisis, that would only count as 1, and Rule 1.3 would still allow you to make a proposal.  But if you had 0 Crisis and 2 non-Crisis, that would count as 2, and you couldn’t make any more proposals (not even a Crisis), because no Rule (not even Rule 1.3) allows you to, and the Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset.

spikebrennan:

27-01-2010 20:36:16 UTC

Now that I re-read, I think I see your point.