Thursday, July 07, 2011

Proposal: I’m fine, really… *twitch twitch*


Adminned at 07 Jul 2011 07:47:53 UTC

If the proposal “Stand Here” passes, replace the text “nor a filename which is referenced in a pending proposal” in the rule titled “Icons” with “nor a filename which is referenced in a dynastic rule”.



07-07-2011 02:01:44 UTC

imperial  Meh.


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07-07-2011 07:14:15 UTC

against Doesn’t this include the possibility of some Proposal scams? As pointed out in the other Proposal, the validity of an icon is only checked during Assignment of the icon. Thus, if you do not check for proposed Icon usage, someone could propose an icon usage, and right before the proposal is enacted assign the appropriate Icon to himself.

Actually, the original wording was better in preventing scams like this.

Kevan: HE/HIM

07-07-2011 08:34:27 UTC

against The pending-proposal clause was deliberately included to stop people from adopting icons which had been proposed but not yet enacted.

The “not being used to represent any other Entity” clause of the rule covers most cases of filenames in the ruleset (although I agree that a more general wording would be more useful there).


07-07-2011 11:47:18 UTC

CoV against per mideg and Kevan.


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07-07-2011 14:11:23 UTC

Guys, that’s why you include the phrase “If any Gladiator has X.png as their Icon, their Icon becomes unassigned and they become Resting, if they are not already.” whenever creating new icons.  It’s like adding a new wiki page; it’s up to the proposal author to make sure there’s nothing fishy going on with the page before it becomes gamestate.

Kevan: HE/HIM

07-07-2011 14:22:26 UTC

Isn’t it easier to just have a rule that automatically takes care of it, so that we don’t have to remember to include the phrase all the time?


07-07-2011 14:23:49 UTC

Except the rule can be abused because a pending proposal has not been voted on whereas a dynastic rule has.

Kevan: HE/HIM

07-07-2011 14:26:44 UTC

It can only be abused to stop a player from choosing a particular filename for their avatar, if you can guess the filename they would have wanted. This seems rather trivial.


07-07-2011 14:47:14 UTC

Kevan: Without a valid icon, a player cannot enter the arena.  Someone could make a proposal that every possible file name (as it appears in the ruleset) and effectively lock everyone out who have not picked an icon.

And that brings me to another point.  This doesn’t exclude the original definition of icons…  against  s/k