Thursday, January 13, 2011

Proposal: I’m so weak

Self-kiled -Darth

Adminned at 14 Jan 2011 08:27:03 UTC

If the proposal “Abundants” is failed this proposal does nothing.
In the rule “Food” create a subrule “Hunger”:

Each Ant or Creature is either “well fed” or “hungry”. This is tracked in the GNDT under the column entitled “Hunger”. New Ants start “well fed”. If an ant has had exactly zero food for 24 hours, it is considred “hungry”. Respectively after each 24 hours in which an ant has been “hungry” all the time, reduce the health of this ant by 3. An ant can consume 2 food to become “well fed”

All ants are now “well fed”.

The penalty is high as each ant can possibly regenerate.



13-01-2011 21:29:27 UTC

I suppose it’s necessary.


13-01-2011 21:50:31 UTC



13-01-2011 22:19:11 UTC



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13-01-2011 23:17:20 UTC

imperial .  I’d rather have food and health be separate ways to die, but I’ll defer to Clucky on this one.

Roujo: he/him

14-01-2011 00:19:26 UTC

for Good idea. =)


14-01-2011 00:37:46 UTC

against tedious. Who keeps track of this information? Unless you also stored a “last ate at” datetime in the gndt it would be exceedingly boring to search back through the log for everyone’s last eating date in order to update them, and since it’s per ant you can’t batch process them.

This would also be a pretty harsh penalty for not checking blognomic more than once every 24 hours, since you have to spend twice as much food to stop being hungry as you do to prevent becoming hungry, but there is currently no way of consuming food AFAICT from the current ruleset, except for as defined in this rule. So it’s even worse - every 24 to 48 hours you have to reduce your food by two to prevent your health decreasing by three.

AND since there’s no way in the ruleset for us to perform the queens actions, she would starve to death in less than a week (although, somewhat humourously, there is currently no penalty for this)


14-01-2011 01:05:04 UTC

against CoV per William

Roujo: he/him

14-01-2011 02:45:25 UTC

I still think it’s manageable, since it’s per ant - and presumably, most ants aren’t going to let themselves die.

Also, I don’t understand your “grinding” argument. I don’t see anything that makes it that we have to check the blog every day: if you have more than one food, then you’re ok. You don’t have to eat every day, you just have to watch out so that you don’t have empty reserves. Since you can do that whenever you want - at intervals of 3-4 days, even - how is that grinding?

For that reason, the Queen wouldn’t starve as she doesn’t even use up the food she has.

I thus repeat my FOR vote. =P

Darknight: he/him

14-01-2011 06:40:14 UTC


Josh: he/they

14-01-2011 07:28:41 UTC



14-01-2011 07:43:50 UTC

imperial CoV per Bucky and William.


14-01-2011 08:46:03 UTC

against Presumably the task of keeping track of all this is going to fall on the admins, and I’m not looking forward to trudging through the gndt log checking when everyone last ate.

Kevan: he/him

14-01-2011 09:22:06 UTC

against For the bit where magic pixies automatically update the GNDT (these kind of rules are usually better as “if an Ant has had zero food for 24 hours, any Ant may set that Ant’s Hunger to ‘Hungry’”).

But it does seem a bit redundant to be tracking both “food” and “hunger”; this mechanic wouldn’t be too different if it was just “if an Ant has zero food, any player may knock three Health off it, maximum once per day”.


14-01-2011 10:14:14 UTC

against s/k I see the problem with the work load. I’m going to re propose with a simpler rule.

Roujo: he/him

14-01-2011 16:14:19 UTC

against Per Kevan’s suggestion.

P.S: I know this was self-killed. =P