Saturday, January 17, 2009

Proposal: Immediate Selfkills

Self Kill -SB

Adminned at 17 Jan 2009 09:40:11 UTC

In rule 1.5 remove the sentence “The Member of the Staff who proposed it has voted AGAINST it”.
Change the text “When Writer votes to VETO a Proposal, any Admin may fail that Proposal from that moment on” to “When Writer votes to VETO a Proposal, or when the Member of the Staff who proposed it has voted AGAINST it, any Admin may fail that Proposal from that moment on.”

I’ve never really seen the point of selfkills not being failed immediately, especially since vetos can be immediate.

Comments

Kevan: he/him

17-01-2009 11:43:31 UTC

It’s because some players (particularly if they had the admin power to fail their own work) would quickly self-kill and repropose a broken proposal as soon as its flaw became apparent. It’d be tempting to kill your own proposal as soon as someone pointed out a serious problem, but maybe it’d actually have several issues that different players would notice over time, if you actually left it up for 24 hours.

The possibility of “wasting” a proposal is a heavy incentive to think a bit more carefully before you propose. If you always have the option to self-kill and try again, then it’s easy to put the burden of proof-reading and critical thought onto other players.

SingularByte: he/him

17-01-2009 12:07:01 UTC

But can’t people just edit their proposal to make it illegal, having the same effect?

Bucky:

17-01-2009 16:01:20 UTC

No.  Illedgally editing a proposal after comments doesn’t kill it.  What should happen there is that they must revert any changes.

SingularByte: he/him

17-01-2009 17:19:11 UTC

against Self kill.