Monday, May 15, 2023

Proposal: Individual Voices Matter

Times out 1-3 and fails -SingularByte

Adminned at 17 May 2023 18:46:24 UTC

If the proposal ‘Running for Office (after building that office building)’ was enacted, replace the text from the rule Running for President:

Quorum for a Presidential Declaration of Victory is calculated as if the sum of all current Political Power values were being added to the player count, and Presidential Declarations of Victory do not put the game into Hiatus as a result of being ongoing.

with the text:

For the purpose of Enacting and Failing, the following changes are to be made:
* The number of votes of a type are considered to be the sum of the number of valid votes of that type provided by the Regions and by the City Architects.
* The number of City Architects is replaced by the Aggregate which is the sum of the number of City Architects and the total of the political power of all Regions
* The Presidential Declaration of victory is considered to be Unpopular if the number of Against votes on it is at least equal to half the Aggregate

The Presidential Declarations of Victory do not put the game into Hiatus as a result of being ongoing.

Incentivising larger regions. It also makes sense since the original Running for President rule says that the ‘sum of all current Political Power values were being added to the player count’ for calculating the quorum.

Edit: Closed a potential hole brought forward by SingularByte. Also attempting to close a scam that I think is possible because of the original proposal.

Comments

SingularByte: he/him

15-05-2023 18:24:40 UTC

Something to possibly keep in mind is that this pretty much removes the ability to hit quorum early since you’d only have the player’s raw votes to try and hit the elevated quorum, at least until it times out two days later.

summai:

15-05-2023 19:03:20 UTC

How so? This proposal doesn’t change the quorum from your proposal. It only increases the contribution of the larger regions towards the already existing quorum. If anything, this proposal will only increase the chance of hitting quorum early.

SingularByte: he/him

15-05-2023 19:09:03 UTC

Yours takes effect at the time of resolution of the DoV, which it will never reach unless you can already close it for a valid reason.

summai:

15-05-2023 19:19:35 UTC

Isn’t getting an adequate amount of ’for’ or ‘against’ votes a valid reason to close?

Also, now that I think of it, the enactment/failing of DOV doesn’t mention the word ‘quorum’ anywhere, so the wording of your rule would need to be amended. Otherwise getting the required amount of for votes sounds easy if we have a region with a high power.

redtara: they/them

15-05-2023 21:39:48 UTC

against Vote for vote.

redtara: they/them

15-05-2023 22:54:01 UTC

against  against This makes it count twice, right?

summai:

15-05-2023 23:26:40 UTC

Sigh, I guess it counts thrice. I see three crosses.

JonathanDark: he/him

16-05-2023 01:31:57 UTC

against Try again with some fixes

Bucky:

16-05-2023 18:48:11 UTC

against