Nothing against your Proposal, but I hope we don’t end up with Proposals that just have a rider of something like “Add ‘The Proposal is a Proposal’ to the Mandate list” lol.

Greentick.

still feel pretty strongly that removing entries from the veto list should be a no-no and will vote against stuff that does that on principle, but because this is still in the edit window I’ll leave it open for changes

Clucky, I feel the same way. This proposal both deliberately demonstrates the problem and adds a restriction to it.

How does it add a restriction?

You could have used this to simply adding a restriction that prevents you from removing items from the list. Instead, you set the precedent that removing items is okay, as long as your add enough other ones back.

Removing an item and adding an item, under the proposed rule, is not substantially different from modifying and moving an existing item. But a strict no-deletions rule means you can still modify a rule into a completely unrelated rule. And I don’t think it’s a good idea to make the existing list entries completely immutable.

If you have a good way to prevent pseudo-removal, go ahead and propose it.

Not sure why I’d need to propose it. Its still in the edit window and simply adding something like “It removes or modifies an existing entry in the Mandate list” would fix the problem without the need for the extra song and dance

Explicit Author

at best this does nothing except maybe help Bucky win by giving him the most recently passed proposal. At the end of the day, people will still need to add new entries to the mandate list

at worst, Bucky has a scam here we’re missing

Im actually OK with rewinding the victory clock with plain stuff when we can.

I think this Proposal is largely inconsequential? Although I might be missing something.

However if there is somehow no actual list in The Veto List, the next list is in… Statistics?

The first paragraph creates a list, even if there wasn’t one, which might initially be empty.

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