Monday, May 22, 2017

Proposal: It’s cold out here!

Reached quorum 5-0. Enacted by card.

Adminned at 23 May 2017 17:58:37 UTC

Create a section called “Temperature”, within it, add:

All Dynastic Rules have a Temperature. Temperature is a value in Blognomickian Temperature Units, which is an integer (which can be negative) and can be employed as XXX BTU, where XXX is the temperature value in Blognomickian Temperature Units.

The default Temperature for any entity that has Temperature is -500 BTU.

A Temperature of -1000 BTU or lower is Extremely Cold. A Temperature of -500 BTU or lower is Very Cold.

If the Temperature of any Rule is different than the default, that Temperature must be tracked in the Rule’s title as a string which is “(XXX BTU)” which is located at the end of the Rule’s name, where XXX is that Rule’s Temperature. For example: “Eiffel Tower (-232 BTU)”

Its coooold!

Comments

Sphinx:

22-05-2017 20:32:37 UTC

What exactly is a trackable entity? Is a wiki page an entity? Is a rule an entity? Is a letter an entity? Is the number tracking the coldness of an entity an entity? The idea of freezing rules sounds intriguing.

pokes:

22-05-2017 20:35:30 UTC

I unfroze because my frozenness froze off.

Sphinx:

22-05-2017 20:42:14 UTC

The use of “at least” seems ambiguous also, “at least -500” sounds like “> -500” to me.

Madrid:

22-05-2017 20:46:31 UTC

I like the rule-freezing idea, so I’ve editted it to be that. Also fixed that ambiguity part.

Sphinx:

22-05-2017 20:52:05 UTC

I’d hate to start this discussion again, but you should probably make explicit that temperature can be negative.

Madrid:

22-05-2017 20:53:21 UTC

Added

Oracular rufio:

22-05-2017 21:31:21 UTC

Why not use real temperature scales?

Madrid:

22-05-2017 23:48:49 UTC

Hard to tell if either Fahrenheit or Celsius (or Kelvin?) is better, so I decided to just not bother.

Oracular rufio:

23-05-2017 00:01:27 UTC

I’d go with Celsius.  It doesn’t matter too much which one you’re used to, since we’re not going to be talking about temperatures anyone here has actually experienced, and it’s the standard actual scientific uses.  I doubt Kelvin temperatures mean any more to anyone that “BTU”.

Oracular rufio:

23-05-2017 00:08:18 UTC

Oh neat, apparently Antarctica has actually reached 63.5 degrees F / 17.5 degrees C before.  (But usually it is more like -70.6 F / -57 C.)

Madrid:

23-05-2017 00:09:09 UTC

Oh well. Analogy to reality or not isn’t too much of a bother to me because I’m mostly just concerned with the formal machinery behind it all.

I don’t mind just editing in conversions in if you give me copypasta to do so.

Oracular rufio:

23-05-2017 00:15:40 UTC

-57 is average for inland Antarctica, let us round to -60.  The coldest temperature it ever reached was about -90.  Let us then speculate that the highest normal range for the winter might be -30.  So we can say that < -60 is Extremely Cold and < -30 is Very Cold, maybe, if that was sort of your intent here?  Or did you mean more like < -90 is Extremely Cold and < -60 is Very Cold?

card:

23-05-2017 04:47:24 UTC

for but I’ll vote against something that lets people remove rules or add text freely to the ruleset based upon it’s temperature.

Sphinx:

23-05-2017 06:59:39 UTC

for

pokes:

23-05-2017 10:28:10 UTC

imperial

Matt:

23-05-2017 13:47:48 UTC

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Madrid:

23-05-2017 17:47:15 UTC

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