Tuesday, April 16, 2013

Proposal: Knight Life

Times out and fails 1-5 - Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 18 Apr 2013 16:08:10 UTC

Enact a new rule entitled, “Settling” as a subrule to “Land”:

  A Noble has a Settler score equal to Floor( (K - O) * U/P ), where K is the number of knights, O is the number Occupied parcels, U is the number of Unoccupied parcels, and P is the total number of parcels that the Noble has.

  Whenever Time is Advanced, any Noble with a positive Settler score must turn that many Unoccupied Parcels into Occupied Parcels.

Another formulation. This formula scales well. With knights, but no Occupied Parcels, it is guaranteed to populate up to the number of Knights held. With more, occupied parcels, it takes more knights to service these area, scaling back development in later game. The ‘must’ is to prevent Nobles from amassing Knights, but not occupying the land. (After all, the knights will want the land). I may also post some calculations.


RaichuKFM: she/her

16-04-2013 21:32:39 UTC

for Out of all the attempts, this is probably the best.


16-04-2013 21:52:08 UTC

Some Example Values:

(K,O,U) = Settle
(5,5,1) = 0
(5,7,2) = 0—too few knights
(5,3,5) = 1—small gain
(7,3,5) = 2—more knights will increase the rate of rise
(10,2,3) = 4—note in this case they MUST transfer all 3
(10,9,2) = 0—here’s an example where K>O doesn’t guarantee an increase. We need more knights!
(20,0,20) = 20—danger in stocking up!!

Clucky: he/him

16-04-2013 22:03:24 UTC

So if I have 50 knights, and 2 unoccupied parcels what happens? I need to transfer 50 which I can’t legally do, so I don’t transfer any.

You probably want MIN(Floor( (K - O) * U/P), U). I’d personally rather the rate be slower, but at least its more interesting than just “pay one knight”  imperial


16-04-2013 23:52:04 UTC

I just missed that piece, but you must transfer as much as possible.


17-04-2013 00:08:07 UTC

for A little hard to wrap my head around, but sounds good.

Clucky: he/him

17-04-2013 01:08:11 UTC

what part of the rules says you must transfer as much as possible? The rules are fairly explicit that if you don’t have enough of something to transfer it, you just can’t do it. Seems to me like that applies here.

RaichuKFM: she/her

17-04-2013 01:28:53 UTC

Is this the part in question: “must turn that many Unoccupied Parcels into Occupied Parcels.”


17-04-2013 07:20:50 UTC

against The ‘must’ part is unenforceable; that part should just be performed by the Noble who advances time. My other complaint is that this solution is still rather inelegant.

RaichuKFM: she/her

17-04-2013 10:45:55 UTC

against CoV because the “must” is unenforceable, as Purplebeard, Earl of Norfolk said. Also, if you had a positive score you could change anyone’s Parcels, not just your own. Just putting that out.


17-04-2013 13:48:52 UTC

against That is a nasty bit of wording.


17-04-2013 13:50:06 UTC

for But it can easily be fixed.

RaichuKFM: she/her

17-04-2013 16:00:18 UTC

I’m ambivalent about this, at this point. Just as long as an immigrant walks into a parcel passes. imperial


17-04-2013 16:41:43 UTC



18-04-2013 00:40:56 UTC

against I guess it’ll go quicker if I do this.