Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Proposal: Less Frustration to Win

Only 2 FOR votes and 5 against, but 4 IMP and Copporo voting for makes this pass 6-5—Clucky

Adminned at 15 Dec 2011 11:42:01 UTC

In the rule “Golden”, change the text

If a driver has driven at least five golden routes since he last requested assignment he achieves victory. Golden Routes become blocked instead of inactive when driven.

to

When a Driver drives an Active Golden Route, if they have at least four other Golden Routes in their pool, they achieve victory.

All the objections I got about the last version have been withdrawn or fixed.

Comments

Pavitra:

13-12-2011 05:19:23 UTC

for

Murphy:

13-12-2011 05:23:50 UTC

What objections? This is identical to the one that was voted down.

against

Bucky:

13-12-2011 05:34:56 UTC

Murphy: Nobody except ais523 voiced any, and he later withdrew the objection.

Clucky: he/him

13-12-2011 06:26:30 UTC

against

Sorry I didn’t realize I had to voice why I disliked a proposal. I thought the AGAINST mark communicated that.

Rewards people who just have a lot of money with no real way of driving all their routes, rather than people who worked on keeping their pools limber specifically because the ‘drive 5 useless routes’ clause was in effect.

Soviet Brendon:

13-12-2011 07:58:31 UTC

against as before

Prince Anduril:

13-12-2011 15:07:44 UTC

imperial

ChronosPhaenon:

13-12-2011 19:56:35 UTC

imperial

Cpt_Koen:

13-12-2011 20:38:41 UTC

I thought nomics were all about communication…
Then again, I’ve never played any nomic before.

I would’ve voted for, but as Clucky says, that wouldn’t be fair. Still, I’m not gonna vote against, since I have “no real way of driving all my routes”.

imperial

Pavitra:

14-12-2011 01:10:06 UTC

CoV against

Bucky:

14-12-2011 01:11:45 UTC

Under the current rules, having a ‘limber’ pool is mandatory if you want to win in anything resembling a timely fashion.  It would be even more unfair to everyone that isn’t me, Clucky or Soviet Brendon to keep it the way it currently is.

scshunt:

14-12-2011 01:37:52 UTC

for

Spitemaster:

14-12-2011 01:47:03 UTC

against

Clucky: he/him

14-12-2011 08:03:59 UTC

Rules are rules Bucky. Saying “you need the most apples to win” and then half way through going “oh wait, you actually need the most oranges, turns out the apple rule in unfair to people with apples” is ridiculous.

Cpt_Koen:

14-12-2011 17:00:19 UTC

CoV against

Bucky:

15-12-2011 00:59:10 UTC

Clucky: Bad analogy.  We are going to “you need the most apples to win” from “you need to juggle the most apples to win” in a dynasty that is no longer about juggling.

Cpt_Koen:

15-12-2011 01:11:44 UTC

CoV imperial
Who said anything about oranges? You just don’t need to eat the apples. And a small pool still is better than a large one, in my opinion.

ais523:

15-12-2011 16:45:42 UTC

imperial I don’t want to explain my reasons this time.

Clucky: he/him

15-12-2011 19:28:18 UTC

Okay fine, fair enough. But how is the dynasty *not* about juggling if there is a rule saying “you need to juggle the most apples to win”? You are still changing a core game mechanic far too late in the dynasty.