Tuesday, August 03, 2021

Proposal: Lets get more in Depth

Failed by Take Two!—Clucky

Adminned at 07 Aug 2021 03:37:07 UTC

In the Dynastic Rules

Add a rule with the denoted name “Level” with the following description:

Each Territory has a Level, a publicly tracked integer defaulting to 0. If a cell’s level is negative, it is an abyss. If a cell’s level is positive, then it is an mountain. If they have not done so within the last 48 hours (even if another Leader has done so), a Leader may randomly choose 5 different Territories. Once chosen, the Leader must complete this atomic action by independently increasing or decreasing the chosen Territories’s Levels by 1.



03-08-2021 21:26:11 UTC

You probably want “As an atomic action that cannot be taken if a Leader has performed it in the previous 48 hours” – as written, this attempts to force the Leaders to perform the action every 48 hours exactly, and has no way to recover if they don’t (which they probably won’t because nobody’s accurate enough to hit an exact time every two days).

The first sentence is also grammatically incorrect (there’s probably a typo in there somewhere, but I can’t figure out where specifically it is). I think I would probably phrase it as “Each Territory has a Level, a publicly tracked integer defaulting to 0.”

This is also very short for a rule – it would probably make sense as a paragraph in “The Tribunan-Ashen Divide”.

Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 21:30:54 UTC

“Island” feels like a poor choice of words, given troops can be anywhere but Island implies water is aorund them. Maybe something like “Mountain”?

The wording of the atomic action is also a bit weird. The way it is phrased, it sounds like leaders *have* to do it every 48 hours. its also a bit unclear if one leader does it or both leaders do it, would be good to clarify that. Finally, would be good to clarify if the leader picks if they increase or decrease the height of land or if they randomly pick to increase or decrease it.

Other than that looks good arrow

Raven1207: he/they

03-08-2021 21:42:56 UTC

Time to do some editing

Raven1207: he/they

03-08-2021 22:05:40 UTC


Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 22:22:34 UTC

can we make the increase/decrease random as well?

Right now, this gives potentially gives whoever gets to take the action a big strategic advantage. I think that is fine, if both jumble and lemon get to take the action; but if you’re limiting to “only one leader can do this every 48 hours” I think there shouldn’t be an advantage to who does it.

Raven1207: he/they

03-08-2021 22:49:03 UTC

I updated again

lemon: she/her

03-08-2021 22:50:58 UTC

needs polishing per clucky, but i like the idea of elevation coming into play!! maybe also change “level” to “elevation”? and “abyss” could be “valley” or “vale” as well :0

Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 23:00:02 UTC

“As an atomic action that can be taken if neither Leader has performed it in the previous 48 hours, both Leaders may randomly choose 5 non identical Territories.” doesn’t really work. Because once one of them performs the action, the statement will no longer hold true.

I think something like

“If they have not done so within the last 48 hours (even if another Leader has done so), a Leader may…”

would work best

lemon: she/her

03-08-2021 23:00:22 UTC

making both leaders take the atomic action Together is really weird and not what clucky meant, i don’t think; the randomness is more important

lemon: she/her

03-08-2021 23:00:54 UTC

or what clucky said, that also works :0

Raven1207: he/they

03-08-2021 23:08:09 UTC


Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 23:10:26 UTC

minor nit: “a Leaders may”

slightly less minor nit: can you clarify if they are 5 different random territories, or five random territories that might overlap?

Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 23:10:52 UTC

its also may be not clear if they choose “increase or decrease” once, or choose it for each territory.

Raven1207: he/they

03-08-2021 23:24:43 UTC


Clucky: he/him

03-08-2021 23:28:36 UTC

looks good. will vote for it once others give it a pass just to make sure I didn’t miss anything!

Clucky: he/him

04-08-2021 00:40:33 UTC


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04-08-2021 01:33:18 UTC


Janet: she/her

04-08-2021 02:42:19 UTC


Chiiika: she/her

04-08-2021 02:55:55 UTC


Kevan: City he/him

04-08-2021 14:57:38 UTC