Wednesday, May 31, 2023

Proposal: Level Knevel

Enacted Popular, 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 01 Jun 2023 10:50:51 UTC

Add a new rule to the dynastic ruleset, with the title Levels of Reality:

Each Mindjacker has a Level, which is a publicly-tracked non-negative integer defaulting to 1.

Each top-level dynastic rule except this one has a Tier, which must be in its title; such rules are called Tier Rules. A Mindjacker is only required to obey, can only be affected by, and may only utilise the actions of Tier Rules whose Tier is equal to or lower than their Level. Where a Mindjacker is subject to Tier Rules that make contradictory statements, the higher-Tiered rule has priority over the lower. A Mindjacker treats all Tier Rules with a higher Tier than their Level as if they were flavour text.

Subrules beneath a Tier Rule always have the same Tier as their parent rule.

Whenever a Mindjacker Ascends their Level increases by 1, and when they Descend their Level decreases by 1. A Mindjacker may not Ascend more than once in any 24 hour period. A Mindjacker may not Ascend if doing so would set their Level to a value greater than the highest Tier of any dynastic rule in the ruleset, and may not Descend if it would set their Level to a value lower than 1. A Mindjacker may not Ascend unless they meet the Ascension Criteria in every Tier they are affected by.

Add a new dynastic rule, called Tier 1: Yanking:

Yanking is an action in which a Mindjacker switches Level with another Mindjacker whose Level was, immediately prior to the Yanking, exactly one greater than their own.

If a Mindjacker carries out an Action associated with a Tier one lower than their current Level, then they may be Yanked by any Mindjacker whose Level is equal to that Tier, provided that the Yanking takes place within 10 minutes of the inciting action.


Trapdoorspyder: he/him

31-05-2023 20:46:47 UTC

Not a huge fan of the fast response mechanic but eh. The ascension criteria for Tier one seems very clunky, especially because all future tiers will also be subject to it despite it specifically naming Tier 2. The way I read it was that there is a set of criteria to be met for each tier, and as higher tiers are achieved then you have to meet progressively more criteria to ascend. Maybe define Ascending as a daily action just as a baseline action and say that it is subject to the criteria of each tier?

Josh: Bookie he/they

31-05-2023 20:58:04 UTC

I’ve amended the wording a bit but the problem is priorities. For most things I want higher-Tiered rules to take precedence over lower, but there’s a bunch of stuff in tier 1 that has to take priority no matter what, and which is likely to get overridden sooner or later if I don’t establish that tier 1 always has priority (“A Mindjacker may not Ascend more than once in any 24 hour period”, for example). But if Tier 1 always has priorty then “a Mindjacker may Ascend as a daily action” is always true and can’t be meaningfully restricted.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

31-05-2023 20:59:25 UTC

That’s valid

JonathanDark: he/him

31-05-2023 21:56:12 UTC

I think the issue is the over-reliance on the automatic numbering system of the wiki for the Table of Contents.

Instead, have the “base” dynastic rule be that all other dynastic rules except this one must have a Tier designation. The Tier designation must be the the lowest non-negative integer that is larger than the highest Tier currently in the dynastic ruleset, or 1 if there is no other Tier.

Then, it’s a simple case of “A Mindjacker is only required to obey, can only be affected by, and may only utilise the actions of this dynastic rule and dynastic rules whose Tier is equal to or lower than their Level,”

JonathanDark: he/him

31-05-2023 21:57:26 UTC

And of course change the name of “Yanking” to “Tier 1 - Yanking”

Josh: Bookie he/they

31-05-2023 22:17:33 UTC

Okay, I’ve given that a try - how does it look?

JonathanDark: he/him

31-05-2023 22:39:15 UTC

Much better, thanks!

Chiiika: she/her

31-05-2023 22:45:35 UTC

Don’t really like the 10 minute timer as is, but is willing to greentick

Lulu: she/her

01-06-2023 00:20:05 UTC



01-06-2023 00:36:09 UTC

I would like to unidle.

Chiiika: she/her

01-06-2023 00:37:01 UTC


Trapdoorspyder: he/him

01-06-2023 01:35:50 UTC


Trapdoorspyder: he/him

01-06-2023 01:37:28 UTC

@summai you are now unidle, quorum rises to 5.


01-06-2023 01:54:53 UTC


JonathanDark: he/him

01-06-2023 02:34:04 UTC


lemon: she/her

01-06-2023 08:06:03 UTC