Monday, September 28, 2009

Proposal: Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

SK yuri_dragon_17

Adminned at 29 Sep 2009 19:04:05 UTC

Create a subrule to rule 2.11 Doomsday Cult, called “Misinformation”:

As a weekly action, a Cultist may send a PM to the Leader containing the name of a single Survivor and whether or not they want that survivor to appear as a cultist or a non-cultist. When the leader makes that week’s Investigation Results post per rule 2.11.3 Locating the Cult, he must also include the name of the mentioned survivor(s), and state whether they appear to be a cultist or not. It should not be possible for another Survivor to be able to discern between the correct and incorrect results. If there are more Misinformation results than genuine results, the Leader must randomly select Misinformation results, and discard them.He must also do this if there are the same number of each type of result, unless there are only 1 of each (I.E. The results post must have less misinformation than fact, unless there is only one of each).

Remove the following text from Locating the Cult: “; one of those notations (chosen at random by the Leader) must be correct, and for each of the others the Leader must make it correct with a 60% chance, and incorrect with a 40% chance”.

Comments

Klisz:

09-28-2009 03:13:56 UTC

for

Josh:

09-28-2009 09:05:45 UTC

for

ais523:

09-28-2009 16:24:06 UTC

imperial

Bucky:

09-28-2009 16:54:16 UTC

against , given the contradiction that occurs if someone is both investigated and the target of Misinformation.

Ienpw III:

09-28-2009 19:28:57 UTC

Intentional. It’s possible for you to hear that someone is a cultist, but then if you watch them, not find any traces of cultist activity. You’d have to make up your own mind.

Also, let’s say I investigate ais, and ais is a cultist. Now let’s pretend ais sends a PM to darth asking to appear as a non-cultist. It’ll be pretty obvious that someone is either framing or protecting ais, allowing for deductions to be made.

Qwazukee:

09-28-2009 21:56:10 UTC

against It will be really impossible to glean useful information using these rules.

Klisz:

09-29-2009 02:39:43 UTC

CoV against  Suppose ais asks to appear as a non-cultist, and, say, Qwaz asks for him to appear as a cultist.

Apathetic Lizardman:

09-29-2009 05:01:14 UTC

against

Ienpw III:

09-29-2009 10:38:51 UTC

Darth: Then he appears as both.

spikebrennan:

09-29-2009 14:56:02 UTC

against

spikebrennan:

09-29-2009 14:56:27 UTC

against

Ienpw III:

09-29-2009 16:02:25 UTC

If I s/k and repropose with the duplicate fix, will you vote for?

Klisz:

09-29-2009 17:04:39 UTC

No, there’s another problem. Using the ais example, here’s what the post would look like:

ais523: Cultist

ais523 does not appear to be a cultist.

Darknight:

09-29-2009 22:23:47 UTC

against

Ienpw III:

09-30-2009 00:14:48 UTC

It should not be possible for another Survivor to be able to discern between the correct and incorrect results.

Klisz:

09-30-2009 01:24:52 UTC

This should be more directly specified. Also, per Qwaz.

Ienpw III:

09-30-2009 01:55:38 UTC

against sk