Sunday, September 12, 2021

Proposal: Like Wise

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 13 Sep 2021 09:23:47 UTC

Reword the first 6 words of the Rule “Communications to the following:

No more than three times per Cycle

Reword the rule “Heat” to be the following:

Each Cell is Hot or Cold (defaulting to Cold), and this status is publicly tracked. A Cell can also be Exposed if certain conditions are fulfilled; an Exposed Cell is always Hot. When a Cycle begins, every Cell that is Hot but not Exposed becomes Cold, and then every Cell that is Off-Grid and has been so since the beginning of the previous Cycle becomes Hot.

Add the following as a new bullet point to the end of the atomic action known as “Processing that Communication”:

If there has been at least to other atomic actions called “Processing that Communication” this cycle carried out on the behalf of the Cell that created the Communication currently being processed, set that cell to Hot.

Add the following to the end of the rule “Heat”, starting as a new paragraph:

A Hot Cell may not create more than 1 Communication per Cycle.

As a Cyclical Action, a Cell with an Ideological Proximity with the Ministry of Information which is 1 or less and is not Off-Grid may submit an Intimidation Notice to the Ministry of Information, which consists of a list of names of other Cells. An Intimidation Notice may be sent to the Ministry of Information via the PM functionality at or by DM on Discord.

Each Cycle, before processing any Communications, for each Intimidation Notice that they have received in the previous cycle, the Ministry of Information must perform the atomic action known as “Processing that Intimidation Notice”, which consists of the following steps:
For each of the Cells that were listed in the Intimidation notice, compare the ideology of that Cell to the Ideology of the Cell that created the Intimidation Notice. If any of the Cells listed in the Intimidation Notice has an Ideological Proximity of more than 0 with the Cell that created the Intimidation Notice, then set the Cell that created the Intimidation Notice to Hot and skip the rest of the steps in this atomic action.
For each Cell listed in the Intimidation Notice, set that Cell to Hot.

Reword the first sentence of the rule “Anonymous Tips” to the following:

A Cell is an Informant if and only if they have an Adherent with a Workplace of “Committee Hall”, are not Hot or Off-Grid, and have an Ideological Proximity with the Ministry of Information which is 2 or greater.

Change the line of the rule reading “Each Cycle, the Ministry of Information must carry out the following atomic action, known as Processing:” to the following:

Each Cycle after processing Communications, the Ministry of Information must carry out the following atomic action, known as Processing:


Adding a symmetry to the two different paths of with and against the Ministry of Information, as well as adding a (slow) recovery from being Off-Grid and adding Off-Grid to the requirements of being an Informant.


Josh: he/they

12-09-2021 08:28:20 UTC

The addition to Processing Communications doesn’t play nicely with Switchboard.

Otherwise, I don’t think I’m against it, although there is a lot to unpack in the proposal - it might be trying to do too much all at once.

Kevan: he/him

12-09-2021 09:47:51 UTC

Yes, combined with Switchboard, “Each Cycle after processing Communications” means we’d be getting three Processings per cycle, tripling the recruitment speed.

Multifunctional proposals can get a lot done with a single proposal slot, but they only need one line to go wrong (or be sufficiently unpopular) for the whole thing to sink.


Josh: he/they

12-09-2021 09:53:28 UTC


Darknight: he/him

12-09-2021 12:30:24 UTC


Raven1207: he/they

12-09-2021 15:11:25 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

12-09-2021 19:07:00 UTC

against While I am all for some parts of this, I don’t love the intimidation notices

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

13-09-2021 01:10:16 UTC

I guess I’ll cut out the apparently broken 3rd communication and re-post the rest tomorrow and see how that does.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

13-09-2021 02:00:11 UTC


Kevan: he/him

13-09-2021 09:23:20 UTC

If you’ve got the slots spare, it’s better to put separate ideas into separate proposals, so that people who like two but not the third don’t vote down the whole thing. (You’ve already got Starbright disapproving of the intimidation mechanic here: others, who may have stopped reading the proposal in depth at “this breaks communications”, might agree with that after further reflection.)