BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

The silence from some of our more Eternally Tormented villagers has been deafening. 

If they forget, it makes their vote illegal. And if we don’t notice a vote being illegal, it’s a mess.

So turning the “must” into a “should” would make it less of a hassle?

It could also be revised so that making comments on votable matters with votes in them exempt.

Kevan: I don’t understand why that’s the case. The Ruleset doesn’t seem to give explicit teeth to “must”. Is it judicial precedent?

pokes: “Shall: is required to” seems to be sufficient teeth.
Kevan: The same goes with most other MUST rules, “if we forget…mess”. This proposal at least makes the symptom’s effects less optional.

Why isn’t the ‘must’ for Cough or Confusion as well?

Cuddlebeam: They needn’t ARGH.

The part I’m wondering about is, if someone doesn’t do something they’re required to, where’s the boundary of what actions that invalidates? Their vote nearest in proximity is invalid? All actions they took that day are invalid? Are they no longer a Villager from that point forward?

There’s probably some rule interpretation or CfJ precedent I’m missing.

I assume it would be contextual. In this case, a Villager with Eternal Torment must contains a string with each comment. If not, the comment is illegal and retracted as if it never happened. I think the latter is the main point: there aren’t ramifications for NOT doing it other than reverting the gamestate (and adding any subsequent additions) when an illegal action occurs.

Argh

“Must” is just plain English.

The boundary of invalidation isn’t clear, I can’t think of a precedent offhand. I’d say that combining “cast one Vote on a Votable Matter by making a comment” with “must say ARGH in every comment” would mean that an arghless vote comment simply wasn’t a comment (and so wasn’t a vote), just as an attempted proposal without a category isn’t a proposal.

(Also, I’m not sure this proposal does anything, because dead Villagers speak through the Spectral Actions rule instead of the Symptoms rule, and Spectral Actions remains a “should”.)

*cough*. I know I’m one of the big offenders here. I think the “should” is sufficient. I really don’t want the game to descend into a mess of “Gotchas!” It isn’t fun, and it isn’t good game design.