Friday, February 18, 2011

Proposal: me have stuff

Failed 7 for - 11 against — Rodlen

Adminned at 20 Feb 2011 22:17:37 UTC

Part 1:
Add a dynastic rule entitled “Things” with text as follows:

Each caveman has an inventory of Things, which is tracked in the GNDT.  A Caveman may voluntarily transfer a Thing to any other Caveman, at any time, by updating the GNDT.  A Caveman may voluntarily drop any Thing by removing it from his inventory (and the Caveman should comment in the GNDT that he has done so).  A Caveman may also obtain or lose Things as the ruleset or gamestate specifies.

Part 2: Give to the following Caveman the following Things (provided that no Caveman will get more than one Thing as a result of this part):
- The Caveman who posts the 2nd comment to this proposal gets a Rock.
- The Caveman who posts the 3rd comment to this proposal gets a Stick
- The Caveman who posts the 5th comment to this proposal gets a Rock.
- The Caveman who posts the 6th comment to this proposal gets a Stick.
- The Caveman who posts the 7th comment to this proposal gets a Rock.
- The Caveman who posts the 8th comment to this proposal gets nothing, and loses any Things that he would otherwise get by operation of this proposal.
- The Caveman who posts the 9th comment to this proposal gets a Bone.

Comments

Rodlen:

18-02-2011 22:37:20 UTC

for

Rodlen:

18-02-2011 22:37:41 UTC

Must…resist…urge…to…make…7…comments…

Bucky:

18-02-2011 22:48:54 UTC

against

Bucky:

18-02-2011 22:49:49 UTC

...and a dummy comment to disable Part 2

Josh: he/they

18-02-2011 22:52:58 UTC

for

Roujo: he/him

18-02-2011 23:13:20 UTC

for herp

Roujo: he/him

18-02-2011 23:13:45 UTC

(derp)

Klisz:

18-02-2011 23:17:36 UTC

for

Klisz:

18-02-2011 23:17:53 UTC

ninth comment

Klisz:

18-02-2011 23:19:00 UTC

...damn, missed the “(provided that no Caveman will get more than one Thing as a result of this part)”. CoV against  out of spite.

Subrincinator:

18-02-2011 23:20:13 UTC

for hey number 9—throw me a bone, will you?

Subrincinator:

18-02-2011 23:21:11 UTC

Oh, blah, I thought I was making the eighth comment but Darth intervened.  Guess nobody gets the bone now.

Subrincinator:

18-02-2011 23:22:11 UTC

(you also missed “loses any Things he would otherwise get”)

Subrincinator:

18-02-2011 23:46:27 UTC

in retrospect, spike, you could have worded it “the nth Caveman to comment gets x.”  As it stands, I believe that everyone but Josh has disqualified themself from getting anything.  What will Josh do with his rock, I wonder?

Rodlen:

18-02-2011 23:52:45 UTC

Actually, there’s nothing for the first comment.  Thus, with only the second comment giving me anything…

Ely:

18-02-2011 23:58:35 UTC

imperial

spikebrennan:

19-02-2011 01:12:27 UTC

By my count, if this passes:
Bucky (3rd comment) gets a Stick
Josh (5th comment) gets a Rock
Roujo (6th) gets a stick
Darth Cliche gets nothing (including the loss of the Bone that he would have otherwise received had he not posted the eighth comment)
Nobody gets a Bone

Rodlen:

19-02-2011 01:43:01 UTC

Oh, come on, I get a rock.  First comment does nothing, anything past the ninth comment does nothing, and I got the second comment.

spikebrennan:

19-02-2011 02:06:08 UTC

Yeah, don’t know why I missed that.

Bucky:

19-02-2011 02:11:21 UTC

Under my reading, if any Caveman (here Roujo) would get more than one item than nobody gets any items.  So nobody gets anything.

Roujo: he/him

19-02-2011 02:29:34 UTC

That’s my reading too. =P

(Herp derp me break stuff lol)

Chivalrybean:

19-02-2011 05:58:33 UTC

against

Ely:

19-02-2011 09:32:16 UTC

Mine too.

Subrincinator:

19-02-2011 09:36:23 UTC

I think Bucky is right.

Blacky:

19-02-2011 12:30:00 UTC

for I agree with Bucky

spikebrennan:

19-02-2011 14:41:52 UTC

I disagree with Bucky. I don’t see how it can mean anything other than “any given Caveman can receive, at most, one Thing as a result of the resolution of Part 2 of this proposal”.

Roujo: he/him

19-02-2011 14:47:14 UTC

My analysis:

Part 2: Give to the following Caveman the following Things (provided that no Caveman will get more than one Thing as a result of this part)

Part 2: Do A (if B)

Part 2: Do A (if no Caveman will get more than one Thing as a result of this part)

Is B true? Will no Caveman get more than one Thing as a result of this part? (This part being Part 2)

Because of what I did, I would get two items due to Part 2 of this proposal. Hence, B, the condition that “No caveman will get more than one Thing as a result of [Part 2]” is false. Hence, the “Do A” part doesn’t happen, so no one gets anything.

Oh wait. I mean, uhhh…

Herp derp part one more than one no good cause me break it lol derp

Saakara:

19-02-2011 17:49:48 UTC

against

Winner:

19-02-2011 17:53:39 UTC

against

Kevan: City he/him

19-02-2011 18:06:32 UTC

against

spikebrennan:

19-02-2011 18:29:44 UTC

I should point out that if this fails, then “give stuff to cave guys” does nothing.

Princerepulsive:

19-02-2011 20:26:35 UTC

imperial

Purplebeard:

19-02-2011 21:39:02 UTC

against

Blacky:

19-02-2011 23:12:51 UTC

against

William:

20-02-2011 05:30:56 UTC

against me no get this. me no like things.

udqbpn:

20-02-2011 09:43:08 UTC

for Wheee

Blacky:

20-02-2011 12:56:37 UTC

for CoV

WhenInRome:

20-02-2011 13:49:23 UTC

for

Token:

20-02-2011 17:43:28 UTC

against

Ely:

20-02-2011 18:39:38 UTC

No stuff then?