Saturday, February 27, 2021

Proposal: Meet Me At The Shooting Range

Timed out 3 votes to 3. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 01 Mar 2021 10:14:02 UTC

Enact a new rule, “Hoodwinking”:-

An Elector may be Hoodwinking any number of other Electors (including idle Electors), and defaults to Hoodwinking none of them. This status is tracked privately by the Doge, and an Elector may change who (if anyone) they are Hoodwinking by private messaging the Doge to this effect.

If it is ever the case that a Secret Faction has exactly two Electors, and that one of them (the Hunter) is Hoodwinking the other (the Quarry) but the Quarry is not Hoodwinking the Hunter, and that a Trap has never been Sprung by the Hunter on the Quarry before, then the Doge should Spring the Trap on the Quarry by the Hunter: this reduces the Quarry’s Political Power by 5 (to a minimum of zero) and increases the Hunter’s Political Power by 5. After doing so, the Doge should inform the Hunter that they have successfully Hoodwinked this particular Quarry, and record this event in his Diary.

Enact a new rule, “The Diary”:-

The Doge maintains a secret Diary of unseen game events, recorded as a private Excel file. Whenever an event is recorded in it, the Doge should record its time and date, and the nature of the event and all Electors involved in it. The Doge is expected to publish his Diary’s contents in public after the dynasty has ended.

If the proposal “Reversing the Polarity” enacted, remove “(to a minimum of zero)” from the Hoodwinking rule.

A betrayal mechanic. Persuade or trick another Elector into meeting you alone (being in a Secret Faction that has no other members), and you can frame that meeting as something that it isn’t, in the eyes of the world, perhaps without your victim ever realising.

posted by Kevan at 27 Feb 2021 09:57:00 UTC Comments (12)

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

27-02-2021 10:29:04 UTC

Can it be an excel file rather than a text file? As that’s what I’m currently using and it works better for me.

Kevan: he/him

27-02-2021 10:38:21 UTC

I just meant that as “a file with some text in it”, really, but sure, edited.

Lulu: she/her

27-02-2021 14:36:48 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

27-02-2021 15:16:52 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

27-02-2021 19:29:38 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

27-02-2021 21:38:37 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

28-02-2021 04:40:12 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

28-02-2021 04:58:10 UTC

on second thought against

I missed that my proposal had passed so power could go negative. without that, it would be easy for a team of three to generate 30 power over a couple of days by hoodwinking each other and then transferring the power around. and that seemed like fun

but this… it definitely needs a fix because currently I can just tell Josh I’m hoodwinking every single elector and be forever protected plus maybe get some free power down the road

it also creates a bit of a vacuum around who can get their lists in first once the proposal passes

so while I like the idea, while this already needs fix to work, I’d rather the entire thing was re-proposed so it can could include a fuse that makes hoodwinking not do anything for 24 hours after the proposal passes to let people adjust and get their lists into Josh

Lulu: she/her

28-02-2021 11:27:57 UTC

against CoV

Josh: Observer he/they

28-02-2021 11:30:38 UTC

Mm… per Clucky, Cov against

Kevan: he/him

28-02-2021 11:53:44 UTC

[Clucky] Constantly hoodwinking everyone would get you “free power” and also some free grudges from people (most likely other members of your Secret Factions) who didn’t actually want you to steal that power from them, and could probably work out where it went.

The rule could use some adaptations but I don’t think there’s any no-brainer fastest-trigger usage of it, looking at the most recent Masquerade.

Clucky: he/him

28-02-2021 16:48:51 UTC

there wouldn’t be any grudges from members of your secret factions, because they’d they could just do it too and protect themselves and then you’d have nothing to worry about. 

Yes, Strozzi is in a bit of a pickle where neither person can safely put the other one on the list. But there are ways around it.