I don’t think correcting and/or repealing the No Collaborations rule is CfJ urgent, when the rule is inactive.

Upholding the failure seems enough for now. I’d be happy to consider my vote CoV’d to AGAINST on it, if we’re in a hinterland where we aren’t sure if it should be passed or failed.

It seems fair play to me to not make ais reuse a proposal slot on an idea that he had already proposed and had a decent chance of passing

I suppose. A second CfJ to repeal the rule seems like it’s coming out of nowhere, though?

Thanks for offering to refund my slot, but for core rules changes like this (especially ones that some players feel very strongly about), a votecount that close to 50:50 is going to be quite unsatisfying if we redo the proposal and it happens again (especially because the rule will likely need modifying anyway, given the apparent exodus to Discord from Slack). Additionally, my guess as to what would most likely have happened would be that the proposal would time out in a (marginally) failing state. So I’m happy to continue without the slot refunded.

I agree that we need to uphold the failure by CFJ, though. (My recent attempt to reduce the need for this sort of CFJ via a core rules change failed, due to legitimate concerns that people had about the side effects, but I think the intended effect was fairly popular, just not the implementation. I plan to try again if I can think of a good wording that avoids the side effects.)

Lemon made a proposal to repeal the rule. She then self killed it after it looked like ais’s proposal had failed

Ugh sorry

I think the discussion involved shows there is certainly room for discussion there. I doubt we’re going to get an answer everyone is happy with, but at least we should discuss all the options to get the answer the most people are the most happy with

that being said, if ais is okay with it and everyone else would rather just uphold, I guess we can push that discussion back

Thank you and I am sorry again

Such a rookie mistake!