Explicit author FOR. ais523.

ais has had a couple of dynasties recently. If you must give it away, wouldn’t it be better to give it to some of the new blood?

Last time we gave it to the “new blood”, it resulted in this dynasty.

We didn’t give it to the new blood, the new blood won, which is how it’s supposed to go. If we end up just passing victory around the shadowy cabal by proposal every month then the game aspect of BlogNomic is functionally dead.

Josh: No, no, no, the new blood didn’t win. Or, rather, it did, but the new blood in question was Galdyn, and it passed the mantle to a different new blood because it knew that it was too new to run a dynasty but didn’t know that the other new blood was also too new.

Frankly, BlogNomic itself is functionally dead.

The idle out and let those of us who still find the game worth playing continue in peace.

You say “this dynasty” like its advent was somehow a bleak cautionary catastrophe. It may not have worked, structurally, but it was an interesting experiment that contained plenty that was unexpected and new, and that’s to be applauded.

Ah, I see your point.  self-kill.

If a proposer self-kills then idles out, does their self-kill still count as a self-kill?

Perhaps this should be vetoed just in case.

Or it should fail 0-0. :)

Baring a last-minute unidling, which would be a fun scam if DC were so minded.

just in case.

The “unless that Citizen asked to become Idle within the previous 4 days” clause prevents that scam.

Not totally, as you didn’t request to become idle; you idled yourself.

(I’ve had half an eye on that scam for ages)

Josh: Idling yourself without requesting is illegal. The idea is that you requested it to yourself.

Yes, but by claiming that you didn’t request it of yourself you can revert your own idling, thus having never actually been idle, thus being able to vote.

In which case the self-kill still holds.

Sigh.

just to make sure the s/k works (it should, by my reading)

Actually, IIRC the reason Galdyn passed the mantle was not that he was too new, but that he had a dynasty idea that wouldn’t have worked well immediately after the previous dynasty.

And that he didn’t have time to run a dynasty, at least, those were the reasons he gave me.

So whats the current tally for Darth declaring BN dead now? Sheesh

At my count, zero. When it happened in my dynasty, when it led to the dictatorship, I said it was dying. Now, it’s alive; I was responding to Josh’s idea that overuse of vote-for-a-winner meant it was dead.

... By declaring that you thought BlogNomic was dead.