Monday, July 02, 2012

Proposal: My Attempt to Avoid the Veto

Self killed—CLucky

Adminned at 03 Jul 2012 11:24:54 UTC

Replace the text of the rule “Factory Repaired!” with

If every Machine is Repaired, then any Worker may make a blog post noting this fact, even if BlogNomic is in Hiatus. Upon doing so, every Reputable Worker who has tied for the most Reputation of all Workers other than the Foreman achieves victory. If no such Worker exists (and the post was still legally made), then the word ‘Foreman’ is replaced with ‘Emperor’ throughout the ruleset, the term ‘Worker’ is replaced with ‘Player’ throughout the ruleset, all dynastic rules are repealed, and a new Metadynasty begins.

scshunt seems unwilling to budge on the “every machine is repaired = game ends” stance. Should at least make it so that if that happens, someone will probably win to avoid the meta dynasty.



02-07-2012 17:42:53 UTC

How do we handle the situation of multiple Workers achieving victory simultaneously?

Kevan: City he/him

02-07-2012 17:50:47 UTC

It’s fine - they’ve all achieved victory, and any of them can chooes to declare it, but the act of declaring locks out the others, since we can only have one DoV active at a time. Fastest finger wins.

In practice this sort of endgame would probably be triggered by one of the winners taking an action to repair the last Machine, so it seems fair enough to let them go ahead and take the win, and to use that as the tiebreaker.


quirck: he/him

02-07-2012 17:56:20 UTC

And if there is no tie…

Clucky: he/him

02-07-2012 18:21:53 UTC

you can be tied with yourself…

Kevan: City he/him

02-07-2012 18:49:24 UTC

Good point. Can you? If the answer is “is there a tie for highest Reputation?” is “no”, I’m not sure we can actually say that anyone has tied.

Clucky: he/him

02-07-2012 19:02:06 UTC

yeah, probably best to fix it to just to clarify. but we’re not in danger of fixing every machine soon so it can be patched later if people like this proposal

Kevan: City he/him

02-07-2012 21:05:10 UTC

Unless “every Reputable Worker who has tied for the most Reputation of all Workers” is read as “every Worker who, when working out who had the most Reputation, tied with someone else”, in which case everyone (except me!) may declare victory. Which may be less appealing than a metadynasty.

And with “upon doing so” arguably triggering on “upon such a post being made for whatever reason” rather than “upon such a post being made under the terms of this rule”, this could end badly.



02-07-2012 23:19:45 UTC



03-07-2012 00:44:20 UTC

against mostly due to the flaws pointed out by Kevan and quirck.

I’m mildly against due to the fact that I don’t like multiple people attaining victory, but I don’t have a strong feeling against it and would probably abstain on a proposal to make it as such.

Clucky: he/him

03-07-2012 18:08:44 UTC

against to move along the queue