This would take out PSS and Derrick, who haven’t been seen for a couple of years, but also Brendan, who was playing last month.

But I don’t see much harm in keeping the list as a historical record. The Emperor just has to (as Bucky is doing now) look over the list and compare it to who’s around at the moment, to get an idea of who to approach. If Derrick returned next week, it would be useful to know that they used to be on the Tenured list, rather than relying on them remembering to add themselves back to it.

Raven1207 doesn’t seem ready to be a mentor, when they’re often a minimally active dynastic player, and still misunderstand some of the core rules - including the Mentor rule itself, when they illegally made themselves Tenured a few weeks ago.

The intent of the proposal is fine, but there needs to be additional language in the same proposal to allow Idle Tenure players to be placed back on the Tenured Players list if they are Unidled.

Per Bucky’s comment, maybe a better proposal would have two lists: Active Tenured Players and Idle Tenured Players, and clarify any existing rules around Tenured Players to say Active Tenured Players instead.

This way, players don’t lose their Tenured status when they are Idle, they just get moved to a different list that prevents them from affecting the current gamestate, player roster, mentors, etc.

Also, remove Raven’s tenure status from the proposal. Make that a separate proposal.

[Jonathan] I think it’s fine to leave the selection to the Emperor’s discretion. If a player is around on Discord and says that they’re happy to Mentor during a dynasty that they aren’t going to be playing, that seems fine, and has already happened once or twice.

[Kevan] My worry would be that a Mentor who is otherwise Idle says that they’re going to mentor someone, and then they go “really idle” and don’t communicate for days or weeks. The poor Mentee is left without an effective Mentor.

So how about a “game” Idle and a “tenured” idle? This allows for multiple states:

Game UnIdle, Tenured UnIdle: I’m going to actively play the game, and I’m willing to actively be a Mentor

Game UnIdle, Tenured Idle: I’m going to actively play the game, but I don’t want to actively be a Mentor

Game Idle, Tenured UnIdle: I’m not going to actively play the game, but I’m willing to actively be a Mentor

Game Idle, Tenured Idle: I’m not going to actively play the game, and I don’t want to actively be a Mentor

Imperial

There’s an existing Tenured Idle state, it’s being unTenured.

CoV to simplify vote counting.