Friday, October 22, 2021

Proposal: Nim Da

Timed out, enacted 8:2.  Adminned by TyGuy6.

Adminned at 24 Oct 2021 06:32:54 UTC

Make the player named Trapdoorspyder an Admin.

I know that I haven’t been here a while, but since I’m the emperor of this dynasty I feel like it makes sense. Other qualifications: been part of 3 full dynasties plus this one, active in the community, frequent Zendo enjoyer. Not gonna be mad or anything if this fails.

Comments

redtara: they/them

22-10-2021 02:49:45 UTC

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Raven1207: he/they

22-10-2021 02:57:39 UTC

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Madrid:

22-10-2021 05:53:40 UTC

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Madrid:

22-10-2021 06:08:38 UTC

I never thought I’d see the term “enjoyer” outside of that meme.

Josh: Observer he/they

22-10-2021 07:44:48 UTC

against Your involvement in the Cuddlebeam influence peddling scandal impaires my impression of your judgement, sorry.

Kevan: he/him

22-10-2021 08:21:59 UTC

[Josh] I don’t remember this, but that is a very generic stat name. Which dynasty was it?

Josh: Observer he/they

22-10-2021 08:33:59 UTC

Oh, Trapdoor was the other half of Cuddlebeam’s recent selling-his-votes-for-favours-in-agora transaction - Trapdoor sold his agora votes and controlled Cuddlebeam’s BN votes in exchange.

Madrid:

22-10-2021 08:38:08 UTC

It annoys me that you still havent posted all of the deals you did, Josh.

I know they exist. Was waiting to see what you did about them.

Josh: Observer he/they

22-10-2021 08:39:48 UTC

I have? Which ones do you think you’re missing?

Kevan: he/him

22-10-2021 09:51:57 UTC

[Josh] That doesn’t seem admin-relevant, to me, as it didn’t come close to breaking, misunderstanding or creatively misinterpreting any rules. I wouldn’t call for Cuddlebeam to step down over it, either, if it turned out to have been their idea.

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Josh: Observer he/they

22-10-2021 09:59:11 UTC

I respect your take on that, Kevan; I have some alarm about a player with a track record of taking BN decisions for Agora reasons access to admin controls, but I agree that it’s unlikely to be an active concern day-to-day.

Kevan: he/him

22-10-2021 10:11:50 UTC

From the wiki writeup, I understood the deal to have been Cuddlebeam obeying Trapdoor’s instructions in BlogNomic (maybe even becoming a full-on sockpuppet) in exchange for unspecified favours at Agora. If taking BN decisions for Agora reasons are a concern, that points the needle at Cuddlebeam rather than Trapdoor.

I don’t see any foul in Trapdoor having broken the “don’t buy BN favours in other games or currencies” Fair Play rule before it was proposed or even discussed.

pokes:

22-10-2021 10:20:27 UTC

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Josh: Observer he/they

22-10-2021 10:22:54 UTC

Sure, but we’re not making a legalistic decision here; it’s qualitative. The stakes are extremely low! And I certainly don’t think that your reasoning is unreasonable, although I do think that being the sockpuppeter is not more laudable than being the sockpuppet. While I don’t allege that TDS did anything illegal or even particularly immoral, that doesn’t mean I’m comfortable having them in a position of even pseudo-responsibility just now.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

22-10-2021 13:43:50 UTC

If it helps any, I was approached by Cuddle on the matter and did not at the time understand the negative implications of the deal.

Chiiika: she/her

22-10-2021 13:45:18 UTC

against Cautioned per Josh’s reasons.

Chiiika: she/her

22-10-2021 16:29:41 UTC

I think I’d like to hear Trap’s case.

TyGuy6:

22-10-2021 16:45:12 UTC

for Participation in 3 full dynasties is just enough for me to call someone experienced. That and Trap’s desire to be an admin, to help out and be responsible in the community, that’s all I’m looking for.

(As a side-note matter of precedence, I’d call admin and emperor very different kinds of roles—there’s no need to make every new emperor a new admin at the same time.)

Chiiika: she/her

22-10-2021 20:51:21 UTC

I don’t think I’m comfortable with it right now.

Chiiika: she/her

22-10-2021 20:51:38 UTC

Will not CoV.

Raven1207: he/they

23-10-2021 14:03:24 UTC

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Lulu: she/her

23-10-2021 15:14:34 UTC

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