Friday, January 05, 2024

Call for Judgment: No New Corpses

Timed out, 4-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 07 Jan 2024 21:25:46 UTC

Revert this revision of the Ruleset by Desertfrog due to the dynastic rule stating “The Effects of a Location only apply to a Necromancer if they have that Location” and the Prioritisation rule stating “If two contradicting parts have equal precedence, the part with more limited scope applies (e.g. if the rules “Necromancers may Kick each other” and “Necromancers may not Kick each other on Tuesdays” exist, and it is Tuesday, Necromancers may not Kick each other)”.

As I mentioned in the Discord #current-dynasty channel, I believe that Desertfrog should not have been able to execute the Effects of Locations that he did not have.

I don’t think I can accurately perform the next Sands of the Hourglass until this is clarified.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

05-01-2024 21:34:55 UTC

for

Desertfrog:

06-01-2024 09:01:38 UTC

against this lets people in a location block everyone out with no cost

Josh: he/they

06-01-2024 09:22:01 UTC

against

Clucky: he/him

06-01-2024 22:01:22 UTC

@Desertfrog so fix it through a proposal. CFJs aren’t for going “I wish this is how the rules were written so I’m going to act like that is how the rules were written and then use a CfJ to rubber stamp my actions”

sometimes we leave room for “this was the clear intent of the rules, but there was an oversight, but we’re going to follow intent” but that doesn’t apply here

Desertfrog:

07-01-2024 07:01:30 UTC

But I also honestly think I would interpret the rules as allowing anyone perform the communal actions

Because “anyone performs the action” then applies to those in the location

Anyone for someone is still anyone

Although I’m not exactly sure how this works when there are no players in the location

Clucky: he/him

07-01-2024 08:08:49 UTC

That feels like a stretch. Seems like if “As a communal weekly action, any Necromancer may increase the Corpses of this Location 3” doesn’t apply to you, that means you can’t do that action.

Josh: he/they

07-01-2024 11:16:29 UTC

Hm, regretfully I have to flip here. I do agree with Desertfrog’s interpretation and think that the rules are written vaguely, but the broader application causes a second-order problem in that the Ancient Portal effect would become open to everyone, everywhere, at all times. That’s probably too big of a swing.

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I would support a proposal that made your interpretation explicitly correct, though, DF.

Desertfrog:

07-01-2024 11:39:29 UTC

CoV for