Friday, September 24, 2021

Proposal: Nomic is Hard, Lets go Shopping

Unpopular after 48 hours at 6-6—redtara

Adminned at 26 Sep 2021 16:25:46 UTC

Add a new rule called “Victory” and give it the following text

A Citizen may only achieve Victory in this Dynasty as outlined by this Rule.

Proposals which modify this rule are never popular.

Add a new rule called “Real Estate” and give it the following text

Each Floor may contain between zero and three Lots. The names of a Lot that a Floor contains are publicly tracked but the fact that a certain Floor contains no Lots is not publicly tracked as it an be otherwise inferred.

Lots have a name, which is flavor text and can only contain alphanumeric characters and spaces, an effect, and can be unique but defaults to not being unique. A unique lot may not be added to a Floor if it already is contained by another Floor. A Lots Effect applies to any Citizen which has a floor which contains that Lot

The list of available Lots are as follows (following the pattern “Name: Effect” for non-unique lots and “Name (Unique): Effect” for unique lots.

* Penthouse (Unique): Proposals which you author that modify the rule “Victory” can be popular despite the restrictions in that rule (as long as they meet the other definitions for popular found in the rest of the ruleset)
* High End Boutique: You may make a proposal if you already have 2 proposals pending or have already made 3 proposals today, but not if you already have 3 proposals pending or have already made 4 proposals today.

Add the Penthouse to Floor 64.



24-09-2021 16:49:43 UTC

“Add the Penthosue to Floor 64.”

You misspelled pantyhose

Kevan: he/him

24-09-2021 16:59:10 UTC

Very much enjoying how “may only achieve Victory in this Dynasty as outlined by this Rule” (which I think we just put in as a quick scam block for something a few dynasties ago?) seems to have become established as a regular superstition to ward off evil, since.

Josh: he/they

24-09-2021 17:00:01 UTC

I feel like this should be more flavourful; given that we’re fictionally bureaucrats in the Earthlink Tower trying to fend off a swarm of reprogrammed copbots that want to overthrow our fascist neocolonialist dictatorship, is a high-end boutique likely to be a priority?

Snisbo: she/they

24-09-2021 17:03:40 UTC

Obviously. Gotta look our best while maintaining our facist government /j

Josh: he/they

24-09-2021 17:11:09 UTC

I mean, Hugo Boss designed the SS’s uniforms and Coco Chanel was a secret agent for the Nazis, so I suppose there is form there.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

24-09-2021 19:55:46 UTC

Im not really a fan of a VC this early anyways, why can’t we give the dynasty a little room to breathe and take shape?

Clucky: he/him

24-09-2021 20:16:21 UTC

@spyder this doesn’t actually add any victory conditions

all it means is that in order to add victory conditions, you need to make it to the top floor

Brendan: he/him

24-09-2021 20:56:22 UTC

against Not into the never-popular clause.

Josh: he/they

24-09-2021 21:14:31 UTC

for The never-popular clause is trivially circumventable, and I like the general thrust.

redtara: they/them

24-09-2021 21:14:41 UTC

against per Brendan. it just seems like a bad idea on principle.

Chiiika: she/her

24-09-2021 21:42:11 UTC

I think we can modify this clause anyway, but in general more words is not good for general understanding; also flavourwise I ain’t gonna wear a dress to evade the Copbots lol

Clucky: he/him

24-09-2021 21:44:33 UTC

@Brendan why not? “you can only change how you win if you’re in a certain spot” seems like an interesting idea worth experimenting with.

Chiiika: she/her

24-09-2021 21:57:01 UTC

This would only drag the game on. I’d like to be able to define it regardless of my location; but this is a novel enough idea to try.

The optimal solution for the person who went to the top is to to make a bampam victory conditions, but then such person will not be most benefited by such condition the game will become to not to get to the top.

Snisbo: she/they

25-09-2021 02:11:49 UTC

for I think I’m a fan of this. It’s not “Never popular”, not really, just never popular unless the person proposing it in on the floor with the penthouse. There are plenty of ways to get there (Go up move the penthouse, etc) and if anything it keeps a victory condition from appearing for a while. As for the boutique, it should definitely help speed up the game play and we can always change the flavor later if we so wish.

Kevan: he/him

25-09-2021 07:21:37 UTC


Darknight: he/him

25-09-2021 11:04:54 UTC



25-09-2021 11:16:50 UTC



25-09-2021 13:26:04 UTC

against then how is one supposed to win

lemon: she/her

25-09-2021 15:07:15 UTC

against not feeling it w/ this particular mechanic

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

26-09-2021 02:59:38 UTC



26-09-2021 06:07:19 UTC