Monday, March 30, 2020

Proposal: Non-Admin Have Edit Access? [CORE]

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 01 Apr 2020 15:53:47 UTC

Replace the word “Nobleman” with “Admin” in this line of the core rules:

If the Ruleset does not properly reflect all legal changes that have been made to it, any Nobleman may update it to do so.


The rule as written implies a falsehood. Noblemen do not have access to edit the wiki unless they first become an Admin.

Even if they could have access without being an admin, this would not be desirable, correct?


Clucky: HE/HIM

03-30-2020 17:11:19 UTC


Lets say only admins could do this. And then lets say a non-admin edits the wiki anyways in order to put the rules into the correct state. Then what would be the action an admin would need to take? They have to fix the illegal ruleset edit, but then reapply the same exact edit in order to get the ruleset into the proper state.

Unlike with other admin duties, this action doesn’t actually change game state. Thus I see no issues allowing all noblemen to perform it.

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-30-2020 17:17:54 UTC

against “Noblemen do not have access to edit the wiki unless they first become an Admin” - this is a misunderstanding, players are allowed and encouraged to create wiki accounts and edit the wiki, including the ruleset itself when permitted.

Updating the wiki directly is how players perform game actions like Ribbon claiming. As it says in the Appendix, “For gamestate which is tracked in a specific place (such as a wiki page), any alteration of that gamestate as a result of a Nobleman’s action is (and can only be) applied by editing that data in that place.”

pencilgame: HE/HIM

03-30-2020 17:51:41 UTC

Ah, gotchya! Thank you.

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-30-2020 17:53:56 UTC

Normally we have a lot more going on in the wiki gamestate - this dynasty is a little unusual for being almost entirely Emperor-maintained information.