Tuesday, May 30, 2023

Call for Judgment: Non-controversial victory

Failed Upopular, 0-3. Josh

Adminned at 30 May 2023 22:11:08 UTC

Uphold redtara’s enactment of Proposal: No Pun Contended, including dice roll.

redtara and Bucky “simultaneously” enacted the proposal. However, the later version of the enactment record’s Bucky’s edits, demonstrating that it followed (and thus overwrote) redtara’s initial enactment.

Comments

redtara: they/them

30-05-2023 18:09:24 UTC

for can’t recall if EAV is required for a CfJ

JonathanDark: he/him

30-05-2023 18:10:07 UTC

I’d like someone who has access to the history of edits (database logs maybe?) to see what was recorded first. Without any other evidence, this is really the only way to know for sure whose enactment was first and thus the valid one.

Bucky:

30-05-2023 18:11:08 UTC

against “including dice roll” is ambiguous but plausibly refers to the original roll that shorted me a Citizen and caused redtara to win as a result, rather than either of the fair rolls.

SingularByte: he/him

30-05-2023 18:20:16 UTC

Just for the sake of the non-admins here, here’s the relevant timestamps.

For the proposal “No Pun Contended”, the relevant timestamps are:
Revision 3 5/30/2023 6:52 PM Bucky Currently Loaded
Revision 2 5/30/2023 6:51 PM redtara Load Revision
Revision 1 5/29/2023 6:50 PM Josh Load Revision

For the previous proposal, “Core Proposal Counter Offer [Core]”, the relevant post timestamps are:
Revision 4 5/30/2023 6:52 PM Bucky Currently Loaded
Revision 3 5/30/2023 6:50 PM redtara Load Revision
Revision 2 5/28/2023 9:22 PM Bucky Load Revision
Revision 1 5/28/2023 9:21 PM Bucky Load Revision

Revision 3 has the admin message of “fails 1-3 rt”, so it took place before Bucky’s withdrawal vote.

Bucky:

30-05-2023 18:22:20 UTC

> Revision 3 has the admin message of “fails 1-3 rt”, so it took place before Bucky’s withdrawal vote.

Correction, it means it took place before you noticed the withdrawal vote, although the timestamps indicate that the withdrawal vote was illegally(?) submitted after the proposal closed.

redtara: they/them

30-05-2023 18:43:45 UTC

Yes, as was your growth tick. Meaning that I am, indeed, the legal winner of the dynasty. no CFJ required.

SingularByte: he/him

30-05-2023 19:00:28 UTC

By the way, the timestamps I’d posted seem to be in my local timezone (BST) rather than UTC that the rest of the site uses. All revisions are 1 hour off the stated times.

Josh: Observer he/they

30-05-2023 20:35:46 UTC

for

redtara: they/them

30-05-2023 21:19:21 UTC

against CoV (possibly temporary)

Josh: Observer he/they

30-05-2023 22:10:36 UTC

CoV against I think the record stands as written.