Saturday, February 27, 2010

Proposal: Of Metals

Antiquorumed, 2-15 -Darth

Adminned at 28 Feb 2010 08:21:54 UTC

If proposal Life after Science passes, replace “Iron” with “Copper” and drop any reference to “Wood”.

I like Life after Science proposal, it is a very good start, but, since this is not World of Warcraft, Copper and no Wood are simply more steampunk-ish



02-27-2010 12:58:56 UTC



02-27-2010 13:50:31 UTC

for I have no problem with this.

Ienpw III:

02-27-2010 13:53:56 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

02-27-2010 14:00:52 UTC

for A second metal might be good, though.

Josh: HE/HIM

02-27-2010 14:03:08 UTC

imperial I like wood. A well-varnished mahogany dash is more that steampunk enough for my tastes.

Josh: HE/HIM

02-27-2010 14:03:18 UTC



02-27-2010 15:40:55 UTC


I think a big alloy in steampunk is brass, which is copper + zinc. Wood is less important but certainly not unimportant.

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-27-2010 15:47:08 UTC

against CoV, on reflection. Wood seems quite nice as an optional, low-quality material - maybe it lets you build cheaper versions of things, but with the risk that any Invention containing wooden components can be damaged by fire.


02-27-2010 15:58:13 UTC

against per Kevan


02-27-2010 16:07:37 UTC

imperial now there’s disagreement, I’ll let the Commoners decide what materials to restrict their machines to.

Ienpw III:

02-27-2010 16:17:48 UTC

against per Josh

Ienpw III:

02-27-2010 16:18:03 UTC



02-27-2010 16:38:50 UTC

against  per Kevan.


02-27-2010 17:38:39 UTC

In line with the flavor of keeping wood, clock movements prior to the 19th century were often made out of wood, and they worked pretty well.


02-27-2010 18:01:26 UTC

against  as a result of Mad Prince’s def.


02-27-2010 19:40:13 UTC

against “drop any reference to ‘Wood’” is vague and should be spelled out, so that the details are not left to the discretion of the Enacting admin.

Even if you disagree that the vagueness is a problem, this proposal must specify that the changes are meant to be made to the Ruleset (and therefore the GNDT updated to reflect the name change).  As written, it sounds like they should either apply to the “Life after Science” proposal, or perhaps across all Gamestate Documents.

(Tense in the conditional statement is also incorrect: by the time that this proposal would be enacted, there won’t be a pending proposal “Life after Science” that might eventually pass)


02-27-2010 20:20:20 UTC

against per flurie.


02-27-2010 20:36:03 UTC


Darknight: HE/HIM

02-27-2010 23:28:06 UTC

imperial I’m fine with either result


02-28-2010 01:57:43 UTC



02-28-2010 03:30:41 UTC

against Per Kevan

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-28-2010 10:20:49 UTC

Hmm, looks like the Alethioscript is reporting ais523’s vote as AGAINST (“Votes: 2-13 (2-8-5)”), when actually we’re still stuck on 2-8-5.


02-28-2010 11:40:53 UTC

against per Kevan.

Kevan: Mabye the script does not know, that you are not longer the Executer?

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-28-2010 11:49:59 UTC

Oh, good point. For anyone else who’s using it, it needs to be updated by clicking the “Sparrowscript Settings” button.


02-28-2010 13:45:34 UTC



02-28-2010 15:05:48 UTC

against for speed; this seems really unlikely to pass anyway, and it’s holding up the queue.