Saturday, March 06, 2021

Call for Judgment: OK, maybe roll a little

Failed, 1-6 with one unresolved DEF. Josh

Adminned at 07 Mar 2021 14:20:25 UTC

Brendan advanced a merchant circles campaign again with a value of 4 using the same roll referred to in the first CfJ; at the time the rule was still the previous text of

Respond to the most recent Masquerade post with a comment saying “Advancing my Merchant Circles Campaign” and giving the result of a randomly selected number between 1 and 4 inclusive.

Even though the rule was not fixed, I believe this was still illegal, as it still must be ‘randomly’ selected, but it was not the ‘appropriate’ DICE roll per

If a number or other game variable is selected “at random” or “randomly” from a range of possible values, its value shall always be taken from a uniform probability distribution over the entire range of possible values, unless otherwise specified. This value must be determined by an appropriate DICE roll in the Dice Roller, unless otherwise specified.

If the Doge increased Brendan’s Political Power by 1 as the result of the merchant circles campaign, undo it.

Comments

Josh: he/they

06-03-2021 16:52:30 UTC

I’m not sure that I see what in the text prohibits Brendan’s interpretation. It was a randomly selected number between 1 and 4; and it was a legitimately randomly rolled number in the dice roller. There’s an argument around the selective choice of a favourable result from a range of outcomes so selected, but this is the peril of the wording of the rule as it was; it didn’t specify that a dice roll was part of the activation, or that the result of that roll had to be used.

I’m still going to be an imperial on this as it’s an essentially political movie rather than a legalistic one, but given the number of campaign-related scams floating around at the moment I’m a bit uncomfortable with this one being singled out.

pokes:

06-03-2021 16:57:07 UTC

This isn’t a political CfJ. My belief that Brendan was not playing be the rules has come to me honestly. And this is the only campaign scam I’m aware of; if there are others someone should CfJ those too.

Brendan: he/him

06-03-2021 17:32:34 UTC

Per the previous CfJ targeting me: “all Electors rolling dice with the intention of using the result to advance a campaign are hereby instructed to roll no more than once.” In strict adherence to this instruction, I rolled zero times. The result I offered in lieu of rolling was a number that was randomly selected from a uniform probability distribution between 1 and 4 inclusive.

pokes, this is a cheap scam that’s worth exactly 1 Power to me, and it’s already been fixed. You know that my previous campaign netted me zero Power. You also specifically cost me 2 Power during your turn as the Winnower, unprompted by any actions I’m aware of, which makes your protestations about political neutrality a bit suspect.

Meanwhile, someone else has managed to accrue a massive lead with 21 Power, without any apparent large transfer from another player—meaning it was a campaign scam, and could not have been me. Maybe your time would be better spent looking into that?

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Clucky: he/him

06-03-2021 19:10:44 UTC

Its not even worth 1 power. Its worth like, not getting two Scandal. Plus its funny.  for

Clucky: he/him

06-03-2021 19:10:57 UTC

wait that should’ve been a against

Zack: he/him

06-03-2021 20:47:38 UTC

against Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, gg wp

Lulu: she/her

06-03-2021 22:29:02 UTC

against

Kevan: City he/him

06-03-2021 23:05:34 UTC

against

Raven1207: he/they

07-03-2021 04:33:49 UTC

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