Friday, November 04, 2011

Proposal: Ok this time for real part 3

Times out 5-3-1 and is enacted. -coppro

Adminned at 06 Nov 2011 08:02:42 UTC

REPRESENTING: comex, Prince Anduril, Murphy, Spitemaster, arthexis

Amend the rule entitled ‘Resolution of Proposals’ by removing

Proposals the Emperor has Voted to VETO are considered vetoed, and such a Vote cannot be changed. Proposals the author has Voted against are considered self-killed unless the Emperor has Voted VETO on them, or they have fulfilled one of the other requirements to fail a proposal before the author’s self-kill Vote is placed.

and by replacing the first bulleted list with

* It has a number of FOR Votes that exceed or equal Quorum, has been open for voting for at least 12 hours, and has not been vetoed or self-killed.
* It has been open for voting for at least 48 hours, it has more than 1 valid Vote cast on it, more valid Votes cast on it are FOR than are AGAINST, and it has not been Vetoed or Self-Killed.

and by replacing the second bulleted list with:

* It could not be Enacted without either one of the Votes AGAINST it being changed, or the set of Players being changed, or by awaiting the passage of time.
* It has been open for voting for at least 48 hours and cannot be Enacted.


Rewrite the rule entitled ‘Special Proposal Voting’ to read

When a player casts an explicit vote AGAINST their own Proposal, this renders the Proposal Self-Killed, even if the author later changes their Vote. The Emperor may use VETO as a voting icon to cast a Vote on a proposal; when the Emperor casts a vote of VETO on a Proposal, this renders the Proposal Vetoed, even if the Emperor later changes their Vote.

If a Player other than the Emperor casts a vote of DEFERENTIAL on a Proposal, then the Vote of DEFERENTIAL is an indication of confidence in the Emperor. When the Emperor has a valid Vote other than VETO on a Proposal, then all votes of DEFERENTIAL are instead considered to be valid and the same as the Emperor’s Vote for the purposes of other rules unless otherwise specified.


Amend the rule titled ‘Dynasties’ by removing the sentence reading

The Emperor may Vote to VETO any Proposal.


Amend the rule titled ‘Votable Matters’ by replacing

Any Player may cast their Vote on a Votable Matter by making a comment to the official post that comprises that Votable Matter using a voting icon of FOR, AGAINST, DEFERENTIAL (only if the Votable Matter is a Proposal), or VETO (only if the Votable Matter is a Proposal and the Player is the Emperor).

with

Each Player may cast one Vote on a Votable Matter by making a comment to the Official Post that comprises that Votable Matter using a voting icon of FOR, AGAINST, or DEFERENTIAL. Additional voting icons may be permitted in some cases by other rules. A valid Vote is, except when otherwise specified, a Vote of FOR or AGAINST. A Player’s Vote on a Votable Matter is the last valid voting icon that they have used in any comment on that Votable Matter. Additionally, if the author of a Votable Matter has not used a valid voting icon in a comment to the post, then the author’s Vote is FOR. A non-Player never has a Vote, even if they were a Player previously and had cast a valid Vote.


Amend the rule entitled ‘Victory and Ascension’ by replacing the first bulleted list with

* It has been open for voting for at least 12 hours, has a number of FOR Votes that exceed or equal Quorum, and either the Emperor has Voted FOR it or it has no AGAINST Votes.
* It has been open for voting for at least 24 hours, has a number of FOR Votes that exceed or equal Quorum, and has a number of AGAINST Votes lesser than half of Quorum, rounded down.
* It has been open for voting for at least 48 hours, has a number of Votes that exceed or equal Quorum, and more than half of its valid Votes are FOR.

and by replacing the second bulleted list with

* It has been open for voting for 12 hours and has enough AGAINST Votes that it could not be Enacted without one of those Votes being changed.
* It has been open for voting for at least 12 hours, and it could not be Enacted without either at least one of the Votes AGAINST it being changed, or the set of Players being changed, or by awaiting the passage of time.


I apologize for the length but I really can’t extricate this mess in any fewer proposals that this. If anyone wants to try, they’re free to, but we have rules affecting all votable matters in rules for proposals and what-have-you. I feel it’s best to bit the bullet and just do the whole thing at once again. All these changes are directly related to changing how votes work slightly.

Comments

Prince Anduril:

04-11-2011 14:47:53 UTC

for Just for the Represent.

Clucky: he/him

04-11-2011 15:35:50 UTC

against to counter people who vote just for the represent. this is a core rule change and shouldn’t be treated so trivially.

eelpout:

04-11-2011 15:56:50 UTC

against  I was just thinking I’d start a new policy of representative based voting….

Pavitra:

04-11-2011 16:20:37 UTC

for This is a perfectly good proposal.

ChronosPhaenon:

04-11-2011 18:29:02 UTC

against You almost nailed it this time.

The proposal part is perfect and I would vote for it alone. It’s really very good.

On the DoV part, the second point on the failing conditions bullet list is mangled. It should say 48 hours, not 12.

southpointingchariot:

04-11-2011 18:32:44 UTC

imperial

Spitemaster:

04-11-2011 20:28:45 UTC

for

arthexis: he/him

05-11-2011 03:32:19 UTC

for