Sunday, April 28, 2024

Proposal: Papoose

Reached quorum, 6-2. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 29 Apr 2024 22:28:01 UTC

Add the following as a subrule of Possessions, called Containers:

Each Thief may have a number of Pouches.

A Pouch is a Possession that is used to contain Florins. Each individual Pouch is unique, and must have a name comprised of a combination of 5 symbols (from those found on this page) that has not been used as the name of another Pouch in this dynasty. The value of a Pouch is equal to the number of Florins used to create it and must be greater than 0; the value of each individual Pouch is privately tracked by the City. All Pouches have no effect.

As a daily action, a Thief may Sort their Pouches. Sorting Pouches is an atomic action with the following steps:
* Destroy all of their existing Pouches by removing them from their inventory, and gaining Florins equal to their value;
* Spend any number (greater than zero) of Florins, and create a new Pouch in their inventory with a valid name and a valid Value equal to the number of number of Florins so spent;
* Send a personal message to the City detailing the Pouches destroyed and created, with the new values of the latter.

Comments

Desertfrog:

28-04-2024 17:05:39 UTC

A few things:
-Pouch should probably be added to the table too
-Papoose doesn’t seem to have definition
-how the symbolic names work in practice?

Josh: he/they

28-04-2024 17:20:53 UTC

I don’t think Pouch needs to be added to the table, and in fact I think that would have the perverse outcome of making generic, untitled Pouches purchases available.

Papoose is an artefact of a previous draft; removed.

“Pouch xyzab” is my anticipated title format.

Desertfrog:

28-04-2024 17:31:41 UTC

The problem with the table is that it says “The following types of Possession exist”, so one could perhaps argue that Pouch doesn’t exist, which might even make the phrase “all of their existing Pouches” ambiguous

Kevan: City he/him

28-04-2024 17:38:42 UTC

The rule says “a name comprised of a combination of 5 symbols”, so wouldn’t the pouch names be things like “✨💣🤖🛑🧠”, without the word “Pouch” at all?

Josh: he/they

28-04-2024 17:51:43 UTC

@Kevan Sure, why not?

@Desertfrog The statement you refer to isn’t exclusive; if I had a handful of marbles and said “these marbles exist” it wouldn’t preclude the existence of other marbles.

Kevan: City he/him

28-04-2024 18:00:09 UTC

You gave “Pouch xyzab” as the intended format in your comment, was all.

Josh: he/they

28-04-2024 18:06:21 UTC

I think I don’t have a problem with the naming convention being established through play.

Vovix: he/him

28-04-2024 18:49:22 UTC

CDDA flashbacks…

Clucky: he/him

29-04-2024 00:38:53 UTC

Why is the value privately tracked? Its derivable information, as you can know how much someone spent.

Overall seems fine though for

JonathanDark: he/him

29-04-2024 00:51:33 UTC

Does referring to the wiki page of symbols make it gsmestate? I think it would have to; otherwise anyone could edit that page and render a pouch name illegal.

JonathanDark: he/him

29-04-2024 00:52:04 UTC

for

NadNavillus: he/him

29-04-2024 04:48:06 UTC

for

Desertfrog:

29-04-2024 06:24:46 UTC

against maybe I’m just stupid but I don’t really understand the point of these Pouches, plus the emoji names feel very impractical

Kevan: City he/him

29-04-2024 07:58:01 UTC

[JonathanDark] Yes, “All wiki pages that the rules and Building Blocks explicitly mention [..] and any images or Templates contained within (or indirectly invoked by Templates contained within) those Wiki Pages are assumed to be Gamestate.” - although invoking it on an automatically-populated category page is unusual and has some wrinkles. I’m not sure what the legality would be of a player adding [[Category:Pictogram Templates]] to another template or wiki page to make it appear in this list, but it sounds like it would count as modifying gamestate.

against Mild Gardener against per Desertfrog.

4st:

29-04-2024 14:43:56 UTC

for This sounds like it could lead to robbing other players at some point? That seems fine with me.

Josh: he/they

29-04-2024 16:02:22 UTC

Pickpocketing was my imagined endpoint, yes!

lendunistus: he/him

29-04-2024 22:11:53 UTC

for