BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

Sounds good.

I’d make it that it was only wiki pages the Dynastic Rules mention and of course the Ruleset page, otherwise we’d need Proposals to alter the main page and arguably everything in the wiki per “The BlogNomic Wiki at http://blognomic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page” in the Glossary.

Violating gamestate rules, one dynastic history at a time.

I agree with Raichu.

I don’t think the ruleset ever mentions wiki pages like dynastic histories and the like. Besides, if no one cares, we can break the rules and change the history pages anyway. 

The main page is explicitly mentioned, though. Not that important, but still better safe than sorry.

I don’t think the Main Page, or any other page the ruleset only mentions incidentally, ought to be considered gamestate; perhaps we could get away with simply making sure that whenever a wiki page is supposed to be gamestate, we actually do regulate its alteration,

99% of the time we mention a wikipage in the ruleset we want it to be gamestate. The Main Page is a good point and we should fix that, but in the dynastic rules, non-gamestate should be the exception not the rule.

CoV in favor of new version.

(I’m also prepared to Veto should Fixes pass, which would cause this to blank the main page!)

CoV

CoV, because the new one does the same thing and isn’t subject to wiping the wiki.

don’t fail this just because there is a new version. that could wind up with neither passing.

why would this cause the main page to get blanked? its not being created and rules don’t retroactively apply.

all you guys have done is delayed the time until we can move on with the dynasty even longer.

“especially if, per the Patch the Magic Dragon proposal, the ENTIRE WIKI becomes gamestate. Bye bye Blognomic wiki.”
That is the main issue.

Also, if Patched Patching Dragons fails, either there is another bug, or someone wants us to fail. Anyways, you did good Clucky, but there are some kinks in all this with how the Proposals are interacting.

Fixes would blank a page when it became gamestate, and this would make at least the Ruleset become gamestate. It isn’t your fault, it is just unfortunate interactions between attempted changes.

how does the entire wiki become gamestate? Main page does, as it gets linked to, but not the whole wiki. Technically I guess we have to blank the main page, but then the modified version passes soon after and we can easily restore it. Doesn’t seriously break anything.

I’m not prepared to reject the argument that the references to the wiki in the core rules aren’t enough to qualify the entire wiki as gamestate under these rules.

The Ruleset is already gamestate, so if “Fixes” passes, the Ruleset will not be blanked,

But the entire rest of the wiki, if not already considered gamestate, will be.

But it only mentions the main page and the whole wiki. Only pages specifically mentioned are game-state, so that is only the main page and anything from dynastic rules and maybe the ruleset.

I think it is clear that the entire wiki would not be blanked, since the Ruleset does not mention every page on the wiki. It does mention the entire wiki, but that doesn’t count,

When your point is that it will only blank the main page, you’re fighting a lost cause. Also, it isn’t “specifically mentioned”, it is all that are mentioned. So, goodbye whole wiki other than Ruleset (which is already gamestate) if you interpret ““The BlogNomic Wiki at http://blognomic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page” in the Glossary.” that way.

The BlogNomic Wiki isn’t a page. Only pages that are mentioned get protection, not collection of pages.

CoV

to speed stuff along and so that we don’t need yet another proposal because Skju screwed up the wording on his