Friday, July 30, 2010

Proposal: Pew!

Times out 2-12 and Fails. - lilomar

Adminned at 01 Aug 2010 11:19:01 UTC

Add the following to rule 1.2 (Citizens) immediately after the phrase “Some Citizens are Admins, responsible for updating the site and the Ruleset, and are signified as such in the sidebar. Citizens who wish to become Admins may sign up with a username for the Ruleset Wiki, and submit a Proposal to make themselves Admins. Existing Admins may be removed from their posts by Proposal, CfJ, or voluntary resignation. New admins shall be given the GNDT configuration password when they become admins.”:

An admin should not show any bias in performing his duties, nor should he use his powers to gain an unfair advantage over other players (such as by waiting until a certain moment to process a proposal).

This rule will have no technical influance on the ruleset, as it is only a “should”, but it should have a good effect on gameplay. It is unacceptable for an admin to refuse to pass a proposal or to do it at a certain time in order to gain an unfair advantage.

Plus, we all know that the High Programmer has programmed THE COMPUTER (all hail) to process all new rules arbitrarily, with NO BIAS. THE COMPUTER (all hail) is not involved in any conspiricies.

Comments

ais523:

30-07-2010 18:05:45 UTC

against I like the idea, but this is likely to fail in practice. How do you decide whether something’s part of a timing scam or legitimate timing? Even for the purposes of deciding when to do something?

Not to mention, that non-admins can usually bribe or just ask an admin to process a proposal at a particular time; there’s normally at least one willing to cooperate.

Qwazukee:

30-07-2010 18:06:03 UTC

against Do we need suggestions as part of the Core Rules?

scshunt:

30-07-2010 18:09:48 UTC

against

Wakukee:

30-07-2010 18:16:10 UTC

Basically, this would provide an actual reason for why an admin might be de-adminned.

lilomar:

30-07-2010 18:17:43 UTC

Couple of notes:
~ I like the fact that Admins can use timing to their advantage; as ais523 noted, it is acceptable for non-Admins to get assistance in a timing scam.
~ I don’t like ‘should’s in the core rules, with the possible exception of 1.11 (which should remain, but remove the “may ban” bit).
~ I am voting as a Citizen with against on this. I ask that all Citizens refrain from voting deferentially on this, since I don’t like influencing core-rule changes in my position of High-Programmer.

Bucky:

30-07-2010 18:17:49 UTC

against

spikebrennan:

30-07-2010 18:24:09 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

30-07-2010 18:34:26 UTC

against We usually shoot down a proposal if it’s clear that the enacting admin would be at a significant advantage. Let’s just try to avoid crafting proposals that an admin could abuse (or that every admin could abuse equally, so that a clever scam could be undercut if a rival admin got there first), rather than forcing admins to lie about their motives and behaviour.

It also seems a bit introspectively brain-melting - if I log in late at night to see that a proposal I didn’t like has timed out with a slim vote in favour, but decide I’m too tired to process it, is the ruleset really going to mandate me picking apart that decision to check it for “bias”? (And if I find any, to stay up late and process it rather than going to bed?)

glopso:

30-07-2010 19:25:02 UTC

against

Hix:

30-07-2010 19:56:07 UTC

against ugh.

Darknight: he/him

30-07-2010 20:41:43 UTC

against

Purplebeard:

30-07-2010 21:00:37 UTC

against

Keba:

30-07-2010 21:41:48 UTC

against

Galdyn:

01-08-2010 02:25:45 UTC

against i like the fact that having the responsibility of being an admin comes with some benefits