As flagged on Slack, “Uphold, in chronological order, all edits made to the Mosaic page up to this one” would unnecessarily enshrine all illegal game actions as valid, even those which have nothing to do with Pinwheels. This only needs to say “Uphold all Pinwheel creations”.

Given that endgame is nigh and Josh is in strange spirits this week, I’m reluctant to wave this through. If there’s something weirder and more illegal lurking in the past few days or weeks of Mosaic edits, I don’t want to blindly rubber-stamp it as well.

I’ll put up a CfJ which only Upholds the Pinwheels, shortly.

Josh is in strange spirits this week

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Could we just have one thread without this BS from you this week, please?

I don’t think that there are any sleeping demons in the Mosaic log but I don’t care either way, so long as the issue is resolved to everyone’s satisfaction. I will note (as my motives seem to be being impugned) that this solution is less good for me than forcing reversion, as Kevan has flipped several black tiles which in retrospect wouldn’t have been flipped under his own interpretation of the rules.

There’s another fair solution of saying that your Black Pinwheels should have been Inked, and that I would have chosen non-Ink Tiles to replace instead, but it’s harder to decide what that would look like now.

Sorry if you were hoping for your choice of stance at Ink Wash to have no consequences. The best faith reading it’s left me with is that you’re trying out a bold new take on being Traitor, and that’s shading how I’m going to vote on the things you write.

Kevan, I’m not looking to win-share. That’s you. Throwing Traitor around like it means something in this context is perplexing.

I tried something on floor buffer and it didn’t work; I shrugged and went away. Self-killed it, put my hands up, laughed it off.

You tried something on Ink Wash and it didn’t work, and despite the fact that three other veteral players told you it didn’t work, you pitched a fit that’s somehow still going four days later.

If this is a play, to create a sense that I’m doing something underhand that gets other players to jump on board with you, then I may be wrong, I can’t see your DMs, bnut it doesn’t appear to be working. But it is very wearying, so if you could find it in you to pick a thread and just be chill in it for maybe a day before we get back into the punch ‘n’ judy show, I’d be very grateful.

I’m giving other voters some genuine context for why you’re not getting the benefit of the doubt from me on an excessively broad CfJ at this point in the game, that’s all.

This isn’t “bullshit” or “pitching a fit”. You called for rhetoric to be kept within sensible bounds, a few hours ago, and I’d ask the same back.

fwiw, I think Kevan’s interpretation of the rules was the correct one. But understand the need for consistency.

I think upholding all edits is probably fine. It saves us the problem of someone else going “oh this thing was also broken”. But I do understand the concerns.

[Clucky] That relies on the answer to “oh this thing was also broken” always being “great, let’s say it was meant to be like that”. There are many types of mistake that we wouldn’t say that to, and this becomes a bigger deal the closer we get to endgame.

as this actually fixes the problem by upholding edits, whereas as I pointed out in my post on the other CfJ, Kevan upholds the wrong action

if it turns out there were other mistakes I think we can CfJ around them.

“if it turns out there were other mistakes I think we can CfJ around them”

At this point the dynasty could literally be ended in thirty seconds of Tile edits at any time, so if those mistakes turned out to be to anyone’s major advantage: no, we couldn’t.