Saturday, March 20, 2021

Call for Judgment: Play Cards, Not Dice [Appendix]

Timed out 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 22 Mar 2021 16:53:59 UTC

Rewrite the rule Random Generators as follows:

The Dice Roller at https://blognomic.com/dice/roll.php can be used to generate random results.

* The DICEN command can be used to generate a random number between 1 and N.
* The FRUIT command will return a random result from the following options: Lemon, Orange, Kiwi, Grape, Cherry, Tangelo.
* The COLOUR (or COLOR) command will return a random result from the following: White, Red, Green, Silver, Yellow, Turquoise, Magenta, Orange, Purple, Black.
* The CARD command will return a card with a random suit (either Hearts, Diamonds, Spades or Clubs) and a random value (either Ace, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Jack, Queen, King). A card with a value that is either Jack, Queen or King is a face card.
* A list of comma-separated values in curly brackets (eg {x,y}) will return one of the values at random.

Any changes to the potential outcomes of the Dice Roller’s random result commands must be made by Proposal.

If a Proposal proposes a change to this rule that would require server-level access to the BlogNomic site to fully enact its effects, that Proposal must name a Player with such access. Only a Player with such access may Enact that Proposal. If that Proposal does not name a Player with such access, that Proposal is Illegal.

If a number or other game variable is selected “at random” or “randomly” from a range of possible values, its value shall always be taken from a uniform probability distribution over the entire range of possible values, unless otherwise specified. This value must be determined by an appropriate roll in the Dice Roller, unless otherwise specified. If a selection is explicitly specified as being “secretly” random, the Player making this determination may do so using a private method of their choosing, instead of the Dice Roller.

Uphold the random selection by the Dealer of players and start players in all games to have started before the enactment of this proposal.

At the moment the ruleset requires that players be determined “randomly”, which under the current wording means that they should be selected using the DICE command, not a CSV list, as Kevan has been using. But the CSV list is handy.

Comments

Lulu: she/her

20-03-2021 16:50:24 UTC

I think you’re going to have to Uphold a lot more stuff than just this dynasty.

Also, typo: it should say “that will return”, not “will return”.

Josh: Observer he/they

20-03-2021 17:21:38 UTC

By convention (although not by law; attempts to fix that seem to keep getting voted down, despite it being the way that everybody plays) a successful DoV settles the business of previous dynasties. I’m treating that issue as beyond the scope of this CfJ; if anybody wants to contest the legality of previous dynasties then they can take their own doomed crack at legisalting.

“will return” is the current wording; obviously loath to change it.

Kevan: he/him

20-03-2021 17:57:05 UTC

I don’t think it’s mere convention: it’s (hopefully) always possible to make a DoV, and DoVs only ever require “belief” rather than any objectively confirmed gamestate, so even if a dynasty is revealed to have been a start-to-finish car crash of illegal, impossible actions, the DoV at the end of it will still have been made and voted through legally. I’ve no objection to strengthening that: there are certainly possible cases where a DoV may not have been valid if a dynasty were to be reassessed (where the dynastic mechanics have idling effects, or block voting).

The previous dynasty switched off DoVs and replaced them with a gamestate-measuring Power-based vote, which would have shaken out differently if the die rolls weren’t valid. I think you’ll need to uphold all of its list-die rolls as well.

Josh: Observer he/they

20-03-2021 19:00:24 UTC

Too late, sadly. That’ll have to be a matter for another vote.

Lulu: she/her

20-03-2021 19:03:06 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

20-03-2021 19:11:43 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

21-03-2021 03:47:58 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

21-03-2021 14:56:31 UTC

for

Brendan: he/him

22-03-2021 16:55:24 UTC

for