Thursday, May 14, 2015

Proposal: Playing the Part

Number of players not voting against is less than quorum, 1 vote FOR to 5 AGAINST. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 15 May 2015 13:54:05 UTC

Add a new term to the “Keywords” appendix:

New Day
The period of time beginning at a New Day Dawns post and extending up to, but not including, the next New Day Dawns post, if any.

Enact a new rule, “Playing the Part”:

Once per New Day, any Shifter who is in the Form of an Individual Human may Play the Part.  They do this by posting a Playing the Part votable story post.  The story must take the form of a dialog between the Shifter’s Form and a different Individual Human Form, and must be titled “Playing the Part: The Shifter’s Form and the Other Form” (for example, a Shifter who is in the Form of The Lord might post “Playing the part: The Lord and the Chaplain”).

Other Shifters decide if this Playing the Part story fits the Shifter’s Form and vote For or Against.  An Against vote must be accompanied by a specific reason of why some or all of the dialog does not fit the Shifter’s Form; any Against vote that is not accompanied by a reason shall not be considered a valid vote.

A Playing the Part story post may be resolved by any Admin if the story post has been open for at least 12 hours and has at least a quorum of valid votes (whether For or Against).  The author of a Playing the Part story post is not considered to have a valid vote.  If, at the time the story post is resolved, the story post has at least twice as many valid For votes as valid Against votes, then the author is deemed to have Played the Part, and gains 5 Cover points.  If there are not sufficient valid For votes, then the author is deemed to have Flubbed It, and loses 2 Cover points.

The Forest may not announce that a New Day has Dawned if any Playing the Part story posts are unresolved.

 

Let’s see how this goes.  I’m not entirely sure about the voting mechanic.

The New Day Keywords entry is needed to avoid ambiguity when referring to a Day (is it a real Day or a game Day).

Comments

dfp:

14-05-2015 21:59:47 UTC

Note: this is a content-less comment, just so I get notified of followup comments.

mideg:

14-05-2015 22:29:07 UTC

imperial

I like the idea, but how do you want to prevent voting strategically instead of “fair”?

dfp:

14-05-2015 22:38:40 UTC

mideg: I was hoping that the requirement to include a reason on Against votes would help with that, but I guess there’s no penalty for just making up an invalid reason.

Would un-“fair” votes be a valid target of a CfJ?

Sylphrena:

15-05-2015 04:46:03 UTC

“New Day” is a dynasty-specific term and thus should probably go into the dynastic rules.
imperial
I don’t think this rule has any way to prevent strategic voting, though. Note that this rule doesn’t ask Shifters to vote “fair”, it just asks for a reason for saying no. Even if the reason had to be valid, Shifters could always withhold votes if they wanted to, and I can’t imagine any version of a “valid reason” which would keep Shifters from voting AGAINST whenever they wanted to.

mideg:

15-05-2015 07:53:39 UTC

CoV against

I really like the principle mechanic. If this was not Nomic, but a friendly social gathering, I’d be all for it, but I fear, most Shifters would think of “He’s not me and I don’t want him to win” as a valid reason to vote against something.

Maybe include an incentive to vote fairly? A judge giving out a small penalty whenever the reasoning was not solid, or something? Not sure if that’d work.

Kevan: he/him

15-05-2015 09:15:19 UTC

No reason why a storytelling Nomic couldn’t work, but it’s hard to fit that kind of thing into a mechanical point-scoring system that generates a single winner, which is what we’re starting from.

Traditionally BlogNomic tends towards mechanical actions which players can write flavour text for, but which attract no punishment if they don’t.

against

[mideg] A judge approving stories or votes would still have something of a race to the bottom. As soon as a minimum successful effort was established (“I am the Lord and I say hello I am the Lord to my friend the Chaplain, the end”), the players with least time or inclination to write clever prose would just repeat it knowing it would get through.

WildCard:

15-05-2015 10:20:40 UTC

against

I agree with mideg and Kevan above.

Brendan: he/him

15-05-2015 13:17:04 UTC

against I wonder if something like this mechanic could be used as a tiebreaker for shifters who simultaneously take the same form, though.