I don’t think you’ll find many others willing to go back to the drama before it was enacted.

Yes. I say we use the Power of the Pragmatic Gamestate to say Bucky’s thing was legal anyway to prevent further headaches.

I don’t think a nomic that ignores its own rules deserves the name.

I wish the Pragmatic Gamestate could be Platonicized.

Darth Cliche:

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It is not a matter of pragmatic gamestate; the illegality has been pointed out mere minutes after it happened.

By that token an admin could just edit things arbitrarily and you would immediately be locked into agreeing that that is the new gamestate.

This is not the way to solve troubles.

pikhq: Welcome to BlogNomic.

Also applies to zuff.

Ienpw: BlogNomic’s tradition has never been to completely disregard the ruleset, unless all my friends who have played for quite a while are completely misleading me, and indeed my own brief experience with the game.

Honestly, this is a whirlwind of taking things personally and attempting rash, outside-of-the-rules solutions to an in-game problem.

You guys are literally reenacting the Lindrum fiasco; stop it.

Seems like everyone is happy with how things are now so illegal or not i think its offical.

But certainly if you want to play a lie and just pack up your toys and go home every time someone points out that something was illegal, you are welcome too;

but you’re not playing nomic, you’re playing Calvinball.

Darknight: At least four active players aren’t. Almost assuredly more.

Well agora’s little invasion didn’t exactly help us fix things did it?

Irrelevant. Rules are rules.

Again, if you want to play Calvinball, you’re welcome to, but a nomic is based around the rules, so unless you can present a rules-based objection to this…

Bucky’s admin action was based on an unnatural, rules-lawyering interpretation of the rules.

That’s okay, but even then, it was invalid.

So this amounts to nothing else than an abuse of the blog software to enact a dictatorial action; it is not democratic nomic in the slightest.

Well when theres a butt load of spam CfJs up that make it hard to tell what happens when stuff passes then sometimes the only way to fix stuff is to bend the rules once or twice. not like we do it all the time.

Zuff: if you want to find the point at which BlogNomic’s platonic and pragmatic gamestates diverged, feel free to trawl through eight years of content (some of which is irretrievably lost).

Alternatively, write a clever proposal to reconcile the two.

Uh, what? No, that’s not the way. Only a few of those CFJs were spammy, and it’s not like added CFJs make the game state any more difficult to sort out. Just pass one of the ones that actually perform a reset and move on.

Darknight: It’s not like you’ve even waited for consensus; maybe three, four people have participated in and supported this dictatorial action; that’s a lot less than the active players even before the mass registration/deactivation. Basically you are trying to impose your will on the rest of the nomic just because you don’t want to wait two days for things to sort themselves out, and that is simply not acceptable.

I will add that blognomic probably got a record today for most gameplay. I don’t see this as a bad thing.

ceci n’est pas un cfj

flurie: no, it’s not. It’s a statement of fact.

Srry if i did sound pushy first off. But wouldn’t it have still passed with the votes of those that did not idle?

... oook now i can see the issue that you raise but it still has the votes for it. My head hurts so much from all this crap to be honest.

We can’t just ignore an illegal action because it resets the nomic to zero. If there is a legal way out of a mess we should take it.