Saturday, August 22, 2009

Call for Judgment: Poll: Was arthexis’ DoV Illegal?

Fails 1-9. - Qwazukee

Adminned at 24 Aug 2009 18:23:00 UTC

Unadmin the DoV, “I haven’t won but still” and consider it to have been created 6 hours before this CfJ passed.

I think it was illegal, but we should give it due process because arth thinks it was legal.

Here are the 2 rules in question:

From Rule 1.9: “If a Bill Murray (other than the Phil) believes that he has achieved victory in the current Dynasty, he may make a post to the Blognomic weblog in the Declaration of Victory category, detailing this.”

The argument is that arthexis didn’t actually believe he had achieved victory, so he had no legal grounds to post a DoV. It’s a bit dangerous to determine people’s beliefs, though, so this may not be entirely damning.

From Rule 1.10: “A Bill Murray should not make a DoV primarily to delay the game by putting it into Hiatus.” If it is determined that arthexis did this, the DoV is still legal, but arthexis would be under threat of banishment from the sentence in Rule 1.10 that says “If any of the rules are found to have been broken, a proposal or CfJ may be made to remove the perpetrator from the game, and bar them from rejoining.”

Please say which, if either of these Rules, you think was broken.

Comments

Qwazukee:

22-08-2009 20:08:43 UTC

for I think the “determing peoples’ beliefs” thing is rough, even when he pretty much admits it in the DoV. On the other hand, I think that the primary goal was to delay the game, thus prolonging the period before the failure of a particular Proposal.

Interestingly, that strategy seems pretty weak, especially for a long-time Blognomicer like arthexis, because there was no way the DoV would still be active long enough to suit arthexis’ purposes. So maybe there’s some deeper thing going on that arthexis hasn’t revealed.

redtara: they/them

22-08-2009 20:26:19 UTC

I don’t want to get into an argument about it. I think rule 1.9 is the broken one. against

And arth? I don’t know if you think I have a grudge against you or something, but I don’t.

Qwazukee:

22-08-2009 20:37:08 UTC

No, I’m pretty sure arthexis just hates me, yuri.

Pavitra:

22-08-2009 21:43:43 UTC

against The ultimate purpose of the DoV was to affect the timing of the game. I don’t want to make that purpose succeed. There must be some other way of giving it due process.

Klisz:

22-08-2009 21:52:42 UTC

against  heck, I think after all this mess, we owe arth a Second Dynasty.

arthexis: he/him

22-08-2009 22:08:54 UTC

against

redtara: they/them

22-08-2009 22:14:14 UTC

Alright, arth. I’m sorry if I did anything. I wasn’t trying to…

Rodlen:

23-08-2009 00:48:44 UTC

against

Darknight: he/him

23-08-2009 11:10:33 UTC

imperial

Excalabur:

23-08-2009 14:39:15 UTC

Can you vote imperial on CfJs now?  That’s dangerous and stupid. 

for, for what it’s worth.  Assumptions of good faith must be made whenever possible.

Qwazukee:

23-08-2009 14:40:53 UTC

No,  imperial is just an abstain on CfJs still.

ais523:

23-08-2009 21:39:40 UTC

against because I’m very leery of retroactive effects.

Qwazukee:

23-08-2009 21:41:02 UTC

CoV against

Excalabur:

24-08-2009 05:59:35 UTC

ais:  oh dear. 

What has this game come to?

Qwazukee:

24-08-2009 12:29:10 UTC

Failing 1-7.

Bucky:

24-08-2009 20:54:51 UTC

against to hasten towards Quorum

Apathetic Lizardman:

25-08-2009 01:18:57 UTC

against