Thursday, November 24, 2022

Proposal: Popularity Contest

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 1 vote to 4 by Kevan.

Adminned at 25 Nov 2022 14:48:30 UTC

Add a new subrule to the rule “Stamps”. Call it “Proposal Pride” and give it the following text:

As a Traffic Action, a Visitor who has been in the Plaza since the start of the turn may make a blog post boasting about a proposal, provided that the proposal meets all the following criteria:
* It has not previously been the subject of a valid boast.
* It was authored by their own Group
* It is Popular.
* Either it is currently pending, or it has been enacted during the current Turn.

A post purporting to be a boast but not meeting those criteria is not a valid boast. Upon posting a valid boast (done by their Group on their behalf, specifying which Visitor is boasting), the boasting Visitor is awarded a P stamp for their pride in their Group’s accomplishment, and may not take any further Traffic Actions for the rest of the Turn.

The Plaza crowd is a captive audience, right?

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

24-11-2022 01:07:06 UTC

I see the idea: get more proposals made. The downside is that a perfectly good proposal could get voted down or not voted on at all just to keep it from being Popular to deny the Group the P stamp.

I’d rather have a Proposal that makes the game more interesting get enacted than have such a Proposal fail merely for strategic blocking reasons.

Trapdoorspyder:

24-11-2022 03:51:15 UTC

I have to agree with Jonathan here. While I will vote for regardless, is there perhaps a way to prevent that type of behavior besides good sportsmanship?

Kevan: he/him

24-11-2022 09:03:28 UTC

against Per Jonathan. Rewarding proposals if and only if they enact was ever thus.

Maybe I’ll fire up my overhead projector and write a wiki essay about why players should make proposals anyway, and how to get ideas for them.

Josh: he/him

24-11-2022 09:24:09 UTC

against Can’t hurt, Kevan.

But also isn’t this dynasty still above the historic average for proposal activity? Haven’t had an empty queue yet as far as I can tell

Kevan: he/him

24-11-2022 10:18:37 UTC

Yes, it looks like it’ll surpass most of this year’s dynasties, if proposals continue at the current rate.

Kevan: he/him

24-11-2022 10:36:33 UTC

(And hmm, that graph goes wrong somewhere around dynasty 180 due to the Second Switch dynasty being retconned out of existence - the spike at 190 is actually 189, the Vampire Dynasty - but I think it makes sense otherwise.)

Kevan: he/him

24-11-2022 10:42:27 UTC

Bucky: Proprietor

24-11-2022 17:24:23 UTC

> Yes, it looks like it’ll surpass most of this year’s dynasties, if proposals continue at the current rate.
Proposal rates predictably drop off after the first couple of weeks of a dynasty, so the current dynasty probably won’t hit the green line either.

> Rewarding proposals if and only if they enact was ever thus.
To my knowledge, this is the first ever attempt to reward Popular proposals while they are still pending.

JonathanDark: he/him

24-11-2022 18:23:30 UTC

against

[Bucky] This was a neat idea, and I think something like it could still work. Maybe if the reward wasn’t directly tied to a Victory-deciding component like stamps, but simply gave the author of the Proposal a smaller benefit?

Raven1207: he/him

25-11-2022 03:05:52 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

25-11-2022 12:45:41 UTC

Essay now written up: How and Why to Submit Proposals