Wednesday, May 20, 2020

Call for Judgment: Reaffirmation [Core]

Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 22 May 2020 10:38:25 UTC

If the Call for Judgement here: is Pending, immediately fail it.

Replace the first paragraph of the rule “Idle Amnesiacs” with

If an Amnesiac is Idle, this is tracked by their name being removed or concealed in the list of currently active Amnesiacs in the Sidebar. For the purposes of all Gamestate and the Ruleset, excluding Rules “Ruleset and Gamestate”, “Amnesiacs”, “Dynasties”, “Fair Play” and any of those Rules’ subrules, Idle Amnesiacs are not counted as Amnesiacs.

Kevan’s move here: is a bit dubious. I’d argue that even if we weren’t all active players, players who joined after we fixed the synonyms thing at least were. And also were were all active players because that is how the game had been operating.

However, that ultimately doesn’t really matter a whole lot. Even if his attempt was illegal, the intended result was a good one. Also undo his CfJ puts the game into an odd state (where some people would argue no one is active).

With this CfJ, if it turns out his move was legal, then great we’ve already fixed the problem of everyone being idle and so now we can just swap out a paragraph in the rules with its exact duplicate and nothing changes. If it turns out it wasn’t legal, then great there never was a problem of everyone being idle, but we replace the paragraph to remove any possible confusion or doubt. So hopefully now even if we disagree that Kevan’s CfJ was necessary or not, we can agree the core rules are in a consistent state.


Kevan: HE/HIM

05-20-2020 20:12:53 UTC

If we weren’t all active players, we couldn’t have fixed the synonyms thing, because idle players can’t propose or vote on fixes.

Clucky: HE/HIM

05-20-2020 22:03:26 UTC

But we did fix the synonyms thing. Therefore we were all active players.


05-20-2020 22:40:31 UTC

This CFJ should be passed: I don’t think it does anything (because I think Kevan’s CFJ worked), but it handles the case of things not being broken in a neat way (just as Kevan’s CFJ handles the case of things being broken in a neat way), leading us to the same state in either case.

Darknight: HE/HIM

05-21-2020 01:35:29 UTC



05-21-2020 02:26:51 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

05-21-2020 09:05:22 UTC

[Clucky] But if we weren’t active players at the time of this fix, we didn’t fix the synonym thing! It was just an idle player making a blog post which wasn’t a legal CfJ, and idle players commenting with voting icons, and an idle admin marking it as enacted. (Although idle Admins can still enact votable matters, this was just a blog post that looked like one.) The ruleset should not have been altered by it.

for as, per ais523, this does close the other timeline.

Josh: HE/HIM

05-21-2020 10:29:03 UTC



05-21-2020 12:39:47 UTC

for now that I can vote.

derrick: HE/HIM

05-21-2020 13:07:10 UTC